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# clouds
steep-balloon-41261
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able-gigabyte-21598
08/10/2023, 8:01 PMif it’s 1080p 60fps you might be CPU bound
able-gigabyte-21598
08/10/2023, 8:01 PMcc @chilly-animal-65189
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important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:03 PMdo you mean the OBS client or do you mean the livekit cloud instance?
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able-gigabyte-21598
08/10/2023, 8:08 PMMy bad, I didn’t realize this was in the cloud channel - I mean the cloud ingress instance, if it’s transcoding
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important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:12 PMgot it, no worries. Yeah I have not put any transcoding in place
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able-gigabyte-21598
08/10/2023, 8:12 PMAs for bitrate, I would expect 6 Mbps to be enough, but you could try going up to 12 or 15 and see if that gives better quality
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important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:13 PMgot it, I used https://livekit.io/webrtc/bitrate-guide which suggested 8.5 MBps (gaming use case)
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important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:13 PM@able-gigabyte-21598 is there a way to see percent of dropped frames as well as delay through livekit API (or dashboard)?
important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:14 PMI like the idea of not having to self-host but it feels a bit harder to debug in practice when I have an issue. I just don’t know where to look
important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:15 PM(I will try other bit rates to see)
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able-gigabyte-21598
08/10/2023, 8:19 PMyou can go to the
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able-gigabyte-21598
08/10/2023, 8:19 PMit’ll have charts for quality, framerate, bitrate, packet loss, etc
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important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:19 PMawesome, sorry I missed that!
important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:25 PMit shows that I am connected to a server in Germany region (I am currently in US East, not using any VPN)
important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:25 PMIs there a way to provide some data locality hint? (request a US East server for instance)
important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:28 PM(so there are 2 participants: streamer and client, both in US East. Streamer is correctly mapped to US East while client is mapped to Germany)
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able-gigabyte-21598
08/10/2023, 8:28 PMI’m not sure what the state of ingress routing is, benjamin will be able to answer that one. It should do it automatically based on IP, but that might not be implemented yet
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important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:29 PMGot it, okay! Good to know 🙂
important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:29 PMThat would be a great feature
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chilly-animal-65189
08/10/2023, 8:36 PMWe have 2 ingress regions, US east and EU, and DNS based latency routing on top of it. Where was the whip encoder located?
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important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:36 PMLivekit server region: US East for whip streamer and germany for watcher
important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 8:37 PMActual: US east for streamer and germany
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chilly-animal-65189
08/10/2023, 8:51 PMNot sure about the Germany part, but the link between our datacenters should not be the problem here
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important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 9:30 PM(sorry I meant actual: US east for streamer and viewer 😅)
important-telephone-80974
08/10/2023, 9:30 PMyeah this more minor I suppose but it does add latency (100-150ms between US East and germany) so any ability to let clients pick in the API would be welcome
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dry-elephant-14928
08/11/2023, 6:31 AMit's interesting it routed you to Germany, we'll take a look at that.. typically it would route you to the closest region by DNS.
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important-telephone-80974
08/11/2023, 3:11 PMthanks @dry-elephant-14928 - it’s definitely not a blocker right now but just thought that I would mentioned it
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