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  • m
    \> tfw u don't even know what hydrating is
  • m
    water? like from the toilet?
  • m
    OKOK
  • m
    OK
  • m
    feeling pretty smug about not being smart enough to figure out how modern web development works right now, ngl
  • g
    rename htmx:afterSettle to htmx:afterHydrate when
  • g
    i am a react
  • g
    le react? c'est moi
  • f
    Bullets I have dodged: CORBA. RMI. EJB 1.0. JSF. GWT. Vaadin. Most of JS world.
  • m
    gwt
  • m
    u should have know, kids!
  • m
    if a FAANG can produce gwt, what horrors can't it unleash?
  • f
    In the talk, I basically draw an analogy between the endless cycle of web frameworks trying to turn the DOM into a VB-like component system and how an ORM like Hibernate tries to turn a database into language native collections. The abstraction doesn't work, the perf is slow, and then the (inevitable) caching system blows up.
  • m
    yes, but did u bet ur career on a javascript thing made by a lunatic in the mountains?
  • f
    Hahaha I'm long past worrying about a career, ahem. Just want to make stuff. Besides, htmx is pretty tiny and works fine so unless you can manage it delete it from the Internet (ha) it will live forever in my crappy demo repos.
  • m
    immortality
  • f
    For some reason this reminds me of when I would use a Mac with a GUI to ftp things around in college and it would piss off my friends who had to use terminal commands for everything. I could literally code review and follow ever line for how htmx does everything faster than feeling like I fully understood something like React anyways.
  • m
  • m
    just
  • f
    FWIW, I've been speaking at SeaJUG for nearly 20 years now, and it's been a pretty influential group in the past. Don't be surprised if there are a bunch of new folks wandering in during/after the talk. I suspect that when I highlight React as a FB lib alone that will catch the attention of a bunch of the architects and make them ponder.
  • f
    As an aside, did you want me to plug Big Sky for consulting at the end of the talk? I get the sense you aren't too big, I'd bet $ that you might get a call or two if I plug you guys.
  • m
    ha
  • m
    i have been wondering if I should start doing consulting for htmx stuff
  • m
    I dunno
  • f
    What do you do now?
  • m
    i have a startup and I teach
  • m
    biab
  • f
    Website say "web development tools" which is a big vague?
  • f
    biab? Google says brew in a bag...?
  • m
    Back in a bit
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