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  • m
    for posterity
  • s
    htmx made me re-think some fundamentals. One basic question: How to create HTML with Python? I think I have not found the right solution yet. Here is a first draft of combining f-strings with conditional-escape: https://github.com/guettli/python-custom-strings What do you think?
  • g
    i think jinja exists for a reason. why reinvent the wheel
  • s
    If you use Jinja, you need to pass in the variables somehow. This means you either need to typ 
    foo=foo, bar=bar
    over and over again. Or you use a hack like 
    locals()
    . But this is ugly, since IDEs and linters won't know that a variable gets used. I asked at python-ideas and got positive feedback. There is already a PEP, but has staled since some time. See: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/thread/G723JTLPTG5L6LWU2XLVGHUZRHEWLRHT/
  • f
    So, over here in Java land I'm experimenting with Thymeleaf (pretty traditional templating), inline Handlebars and https://j2html.com/ . So far (a bit to my surprise) I'm finding j2html to be nicest for the smaller snippets (e.g. sending back options for a dynamic htmx select menu update). Not sure if there is something like j2html for Python or not 🤔 , but I know there are Moustache/Handlebars implementations.
  • s
    Sorry, for me html means to type 
    <tags>
    . I am very used to these greater- and smaller-signs.
  • f
    Yeah, jinja or python handlebars probably.
  • f
    My two cents, don't want to reinvent html escaping - no fun, lots of potential security issues
  • r
    Anyone used htmx with client side template and headless cms? I was thinking about the easiest way to integrate dynamic user editable content in my webapp. But building my own rich content admin ui + backend seems kind of a waste of time.
  • s
    What is a headless CMS for you? For me the ORM to access PostgreSQL is my headless CMS (or maybe more a data management system). Next to the ORM you could use the Django Admin, or a SQL GUI with autocomplete for table and column names. What kind of framework do you use on the backend?
  • r
    The best example I could find was something like wagtail. Django Admin looks also good. A drop in cms into my existing backend. I'm using Spring Boot
  • s
    What's your goal?
  • r
    I want my Client to be able to write rich content like an article and then automatically create a html page from that
  • s
    And you think htmx can help you to get you to your goal?
  • r
    Yes
  • p
    i've had a hypothesis for a while that an htmx extension can be taught to speak PostgREST/pREST and then have a nice way to both do CMS and automake pages
  • b
    Hi, I am using using with a custom extension. But I have an issue when I try to redirect in the middle of an htmx call. htmx is unaware of the redirect and will try to process the new page as the response to the original call. Any suggestions on how to handle this?. Thanks.
  • m
    you probably want to use the 
    HX-Redirect
    response header with an empty response: https://htmx.org/reference/#response_headers
  • m
    htmx doesn't see server side redirects, it just gets content back from the client
  • b
    Thank you. Any examples of HX-Redirect ? Not sure of the sequence of events. Will the redirect still work?.
  • m
    you can do the server side redirect, but the content probably isn't what you want
  • m
    If you just issue a 
    HX-Redirect
    header (it will be platform specific how you do this, what are you using? Maybe someone here can help) then the browser will go to the new URL
  • m
  • b
    So does that mean I should do a client side redirect?.
  • m
    The 
    HX-Redirect
    header will do that client side redirect for you. You just need to respond with that header, set to the value of the URL you want to redirect to
  • r
    I was thinking about a spring library that creates CRUD htmx forms which make request to hal spring data rest endpoints. Then to extend it to a cms, make an annotation that configures a basepath and a template file. Have a WYSIWYG editor for the content field and the htmx crud forms for the other relevant attributes like metatitle, tags, metadescription, author and such
  • u
    Hi all, How can i perform a smooth “scroll to top” (or scroll to element X) after a html fragment has been replaced using hx-swap ? Should i hook into some htmx event?
  • m
  • m
    Copy code
    html
  <!-- this will get some content and add it to #another-div, then ensure that the top of #another-div is visible in the 
       viewport -->
  <div hx-get="/example" 
       hx-swap="innerHTML show:top"
       hx-target="#another-div">
    Get Some Content
  </div>
  • u
    Holy crap, its actually mentioned on the website. How did i miss that. 🤪
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