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  • g
    you could argue that the hotwire thing that pulls navigation links from your pages and turns it into mobile app ui is a kind of microformat client app receives arbitrarily-structured markup, data is plucked out of it through some markup conventions, and the app can now present arbitrary data
  • m
    🤔
  • g
    my favorite thing about microformats is that there are agreed-upon formats for common stuff, so all apps that have "people" or "places" would have the same API structures -- instead of Facebook and Twitter using completely different APIs to present nearly the exact same kind of data
  • m
    I can understand that
  • m
    lol reminds me of an old domain of mine: http://jschema.org/
  • m
    jschema is homoiconic
  • u
  • u
    Ah, I see your point.
  • u
    Strike that
  • g
    this seems to be turning json into a hypertext. i'd rather turn html into a data format, since most of the advantage of being a hypertext comes from the browser, and I'm not aware of any jsonapi browsers or stylesheets
  • g
    better not give js people any ideas, someone will probably reimplement the web in json
  • g
    then we'll have to make jsox and jsscript
  • m
    what does this mean?
  • p
    Discussion whether reduce() is better than for-loops
  • m
    i see
  • g
    answer: yes
  • g
    hardly a discussion to be had
  • g
    if you can reduce, you should.
  • n
    JSON API started as an attempt to build a hypermedia format
  • n
    also this might be very interesting for this channel https://kieranpotts.com/rebranding-rest/
  • u
    Yeah. I used too work with Ember JS and one of the creators was (still is?!) a contributor to JSONAPI. Ember Data (a GraphQL precursor with a different approach) is based on it.
  • n
    I work on multiple Ember JS apps every day. I really like JSONAPI is one of the better attempts but it has not been finalized. It's still missing the equivalent of "links" and "forms" that HTML has to be a Hypermedia format among other things.
  • m
    \> ember developers are among us \> act normal
  • s
    🤚 I am also an Ember Dev
  • n
    I also like JavaScript and really like TypeScript 👻
  • b
    Along these lines, anyone have some tips on a specific example for someone really bad with js (me)? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67681380/using-bootstrap-datepicker-with-htmx
  • s
    re: same endpoint for html and json.. in my apps I normally make 3 'types' of endpoints.
  • s
    the normal html and /api endpoints but I use /api stricly for external token auth.. then I also make a /wapi or (web api) that is strictly for components on the site that uses session auth.
  • s
    so that if i or someone else refactors an internal component it wont break an external dependency
  • b
    my thoughts exactly
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