How about a separate channel for questions?

There could also be separate channels for django/laravel etc for backend-implementation specific issues

and maybe another "showcase" channel

just seeing how other communities e.g. stimulus-reflex have done it

A separate channel for question does not lead to the thing which was on my mind: Making answers appear in google search results.

good point

Maybe it is just me, but usually I avoid tools which have not questions/answers at stackoverflow, since this means it is a tool which only few people use.

It's a chicken/egg situation. People don't ask because they don't use/know about it (yet).

i guess (correct me if i'm wrong), guettli is saying (or at least that's what i think :p) - there are already lots of great questions with good answers being given here, it'd be a shame to let that content just sit in discord? 🙂

Yes, answer in this channel can't be found by people using a search engine. This means the same questions come up again, and (more important) people who are too shy to ask won't find an answer. They would find an answer, if the answers of this channel would be indexed by google. It is like PR (public relations / marketing). We would do better advertising for htmx if there would be more answers at Stackoverflow.

I agree. I try to make sure that github issues that are really questions get moved to stack overflow. Unfortunately that's harder to do with chats, since they are more of a flow. Maybe we could sock-puppet them over to SO as well? I dunno, I never liked doing stuff like that, and I don't like telling someone who shows up here w/ questions to ask on SO either. 😑

part of the problem I think is that htmx just isn't that hard when you get down to it, so there aren't nearly as many questions generated around it

Yes, htmx is easy. Maybe we coud guide new comers to Stackoverflow, if we move it to the top here. And maybe add an explanation, too. Like "Please ask on Stackoverflow first. This way you and other people can benefit from the answers you get"

Maybe it would help if we write a small text about how to create reproducible htmx examples with mocky.io and Stackoverflow. For example this one contains an easy to test example: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67289814/htmx-e-queryselectorall-is-not-a-function

Or find a bot that will log the discord chat and put it on the web

the Clojurians Slack channel, for example, has online logs so you can search back through old chats ... it's through yet-another-service ... but it works

you know, rather than try and retrain behavior, maybe just run with it and go for redundancy. there is probably something in the world of discord that will keep logs and throw them online... and then they would be google-able. probably one or two googles deep, max. but yeah, not sure what the exact tool to online-ify logs would be.

Hope I did not come off rudely, I was just trying to chime in with something useful xD

no worries, this is a good vibes channel and we always assume good will

So cool! We need more info, tutorials and docs about Htmx

there will be always questions. A chat I think is not the best medium. It's just too unorganized.

Django, for instance, has a specific forum (https://forum.djangoproject.com/)

Let's wait and see where people prefer to communicate. I think we are just at the beginning of a big adventure.

Hi, Another day, another question. Is it possible to execute a javascript function that returns a snippet from an hmtx get or something e.g. I have a pair of linked selects and I'm updating one based on input from another. A common enough scenario. Where mine changes pace a little is that my second select is a filtered version of the first select i.e. it's everything but the selected item. I was fetching this from a REST service, but given the data is already on the page and had been rendered I think it would give better performance to simply re-use that, so I've written a function that does that, and I don't mind using it but it struck me that it would be nice to be able to target an internal function's output as well as REST services. Make sense? Anyway I searched the doco etc. for an answer but "didnae find nothing" that made sense. Assistance appreciated.

You can return an HX-Trigger from your server URL with e.g. the selected item ID. Alternatively you can use hx-swap-oob and return the other select with the updated items.

The "htmx" way is to expand the target and rerender both drop downs server side. Performance-wise it will be no difference. If you want to do it client side, you could trigger an event and catch it and do whatever you want. If you are adventurous you could use hyperscript for that, but plain old javascript will work.

I guess you want "cascading selects". Does this answer your question? https://htmx.org/examples/value-select/

Thanks for all the replies. I already have the cascading selects working, but it requires a server-trip to function. Is there a way of doing this without the server-trip e.g. by calling a client side javascript function. I can do this by hooking the onchange even of the first select an executing a vanilla js function accordingly, but I'd like to do it in a more htmx style e.g. hx-get="clientsideFunction", so long as the function returns an appropriately formatted string, have htmx do its thing replacement wise.

do you really think this server-trip is an issue? Just my gut feeling: optimize later. If you want to optimize, then I see two ways: Via JS, then you don't need htmx. Or you use htmx and after the initial load you load the cascading htmx snippets in the cache in background.

It's not an insurmountable issue, a trigger delay makes it appear like there's nothing untoward going on, but given that the second select is simply a copy of the first filtered to remove the chosen value, then repeatedly pulling the list from the database, which could, of course, be cached, does seem to be a waste of resources. As I said it's surmountable with some normal js hooked into the onchange event, which is fine, I just wondered if there was some way of having htmx get data from some client-side source rather than from the server. From the answers given so far, it would appear not. Which is fine. Just a matter of knowing what's possible and what's not. Thanks for the responses BTW. Appreciate the help.