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  • f
    Hi, I'm interested in using hx-sse, but the docs say: "Htmx has experimental support for declarative use of both WebSockets and Server Sent Events. These features are under active development, so please let us know if you are willing to experiment with them."
  • f
    Does that mean that the feature is not presently reliable, or just that the API may change in the future?
  • m
    the feature is actually pretty stable at this point
  • m
    @User is your best point of contact for questions on it
  • g
    Howdy @User -- It looks like I've been summoned 🙂
  • f
    @mysterious-toddler-20573 @benoate OK, thanks. I am considering using it in production, and just wanted to know if it's reliable.
  • g
    Yes, the documentation should probably be updated. SSE is working pretty well now, though I'm still planning on suggesting some future (backwards compatible) enhancements to @mysterious-toddler-20573.
  • f
    @gorgeous-ghost-95789 Excellent, sounds great!
  • m
    it looks like you have a local path there? You'll need something that starts 
    http:
    or 
    https:
  • g
    Yes. I's say SSE is pretty reliable. I haven't gotten to use it in production, yet, but I'm planning on it. More eyes are always better, so I'd love to have another person load test it to confirm. Do you have any ideas about the kind of load you're expecting?
  • f
    @gorgeous-ghost-95789 Maybe 1000 simultaneous users, if things go very well. If things go incredibly well, maybe 10000. 🙂
  • g
    Sounds great. The number of simultaneous users will obviously affect your back end servers most of all. How frequent will your push messages be? Roughly, of course. Every minute? Every second?
  • f
    @gorgeous-ghost-95789 I can imagine, possibly every second in the event of excellent uptake. It's hard to predict.
  • f
    @gorgeous-ghost-95789, yeah I would definitely assume it would affect the backend most!
  • b
    this works perfectly. Thanks.
  • f
    @gorgeous-ghost-95789 If seems like, if I did run into scaling issues with SSE on my server, I could offload the SSE onto a service like Ably's: https://ably.com/documentation/sse
  • g
    Ooohh.. I like this. Gonna do some digging into this one. Thanks for the suggestion!
  • f
    benpate 🙂 Glad I could help; you certainly have!
  • m
    all hands on upvote deck: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
  • m
    @User posted his article on the hyperscript debugger
  • g
    I'm not entirely finished with the demo or this slidedeck yet, but I'll be presenting this tomorrow for my company. Hope I can convert a few people. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jeErNWSlRkP1e4nNLJgGj_guMKZizJ8aw_ynV7lELck/edit?usp=sharing
  • m
    excellent presentation!
  • m
    Let me know if I can help with anything
  • s
    One small suggestion, from slides 6-12, the diagram boxes suffer from color contrast issues, it would be great if we use colors with better contrast for the text and background, it will greatly improve readability and good for a11y
  • g
    I was trying to figure out good colors but I'm absolute garbage at that haha
  • s
    I think using plain white or black for the box will do
  • g
    Unfortunately at this point it would take me like an hour to fix all of them haha
  • s
    I can help if you want, just tell me you are good with black or white as the background
  • g
  • g
    Any ideas on how to work around this?
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