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# htmx-general
  • m
    😑
  • m
    \> tfw people understand your library better than you do
  • g
    "Your children are not your children. They are sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself..."
  • g
  • m
    i don't know that that means and i am pretty sure my children are my children but I agree
  • g
    It means that we grow up without you and make our own messes in our own lives, and you can't stop us.
  • g
    🙂
  • s
    Is there a way to have two rows as hx-target? I have a pair of rows which I would like to update in one call: ...... ......
  • m
    unfortunately no
  • m
    HOWEVER
  • m
    you could make an extension 🙂
  • g
    Or an oob swap
  • m
    Oh, rows, I read "columns"
  • m
    rows can be done w/ oob, sure (I think)
  • m
    tables are a nightmare in general
  • s
    Sorry, this was a typo. Yes, I want to replace two rows. But I found a work-around.
  • m
    🙂
  • m
    awesome
  • s
    I have a new question, I created it on StackO to make the answer available for the next newcomers: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66645623/htmx-update-parent-fragment-if-child-form-is-valid
  • g
    the only problem htmx doesn't solve for me (not that it can or should or anything like that) is end to end testing in web apps. i think it does sorta make things easier if you write automated tests over the rendered html of a request, but obviously that doesn't test the interaction between elements on the page. is there any gain at all in end to end testing when using htmx? or are they too unrelated? if i can dream up even a minor scenario in which htmx makes end to end testing easier, i think it just puts this thing over the top
  • s
    TodoMVC demo with htmx and hyperscript Code: https://github.com/rajasegar/todomvc-htmx Demo: https://todomvc-htmx.herokuapp.com/
  • s
    I think end-to-end testing is unrelated to htmx. I think you should be able switch the complete stack (from php to django to svelvte to vue to htmx to ...) and if everything was done correctly the end-to-end tests should just work. I heared that PlayWright is a cool way to do end-to-end tests.
  • s
    -------- I like OOB. I think the docs could need more examples: https://htmx.org/attributes/hx-swap-oob/ Which easy to understand examples could get added?
  • m
  • m
    Happy to look at pull requests!
  • m
    yes, we need to think about this as a group
  • m
    in theory, htmx is functional, so it should be very testable
  • m
    in practice, I'm not sure that's the case though
  • m
    what the curren industry best practices for website testing? I used selenium back in the day, and it was a nightmare
  • s
    I read some articles about "Playright vs Cypress vs Puppeteer" and it looks like Playright seems to be a good choice.
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