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  • m
    I really do need a guru on the htmx project that can help me ensure it is compatible with all the build tools, but also without introducing any build tools to the project. :/
  • b
    hi 🙂 simple question: I have an HTML form doing a GET using htmx, but I would like to avoid sending empty params; is there a trick in htmx to do that?
  • t
    > https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/blob/master/src/htmx.js#L936 @mysterious-toddler-20573 This doesn't seem to work for me. I'm appending rows to the end of a table that have a few inputs and a button each. I call _hyperscript.start() on initial page load. The hyperscript on the added inputs and buttons only works if I call _hyperscript.start() again after each ajax load.
  • t
    @bland-twilight-77339 No. What's your use case for not sending empty params in a form?
  • b
    @tall-dinner-62086 it's is just a get request, and the server is not happy if you specify empty parameters; it says that they are invalid, as they are interpreted as empty strings, while they are optional, so you can set arg1=5 (a number) or you do not set it at all, because "arg=" is an empty string
  • t
    The server should know how to handle empty strings. You can probably make an extension that intercepts your requests and removes empty parameters
  • b
    I could do that; thanks 🙂 I would not like to change the server, as having an argument with an empty value is different for not having that argument in the first place (NULL vs empty string for example)
  • t
    I figured out my loading issue. The query selector for elements to initialize on load is only looking for htmx attributes, 
    a
    , and 
    form
    tags. I'm trying to get it to initialize hyperscript on 
    input
    and 
    button
    tags that don't have htmx attributes on them.
  • t
    interestingly it does call 
    _hyperscript.init()
    on the root 
    tr
    element, but that doesn't initialize its children
  • s
    Hi, is this an omission here? https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/blob/master/src/htmx.js#L316 It doesn't provide a "find" selector (was present in intercooler) to search children: Can add:
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    } else if (targetStr.indexOf("find ") === 0) {
                    return find(elt, targetStr.substr(5));
    }
  • m
    @User ugh, that's a pretty bad bug, my bad
  • s
    i can submit pr for karma points if you dont mind lol 🙂
  • m
    @User we should follow the way that forms behave, so if forms include the empty parameter, so should htmx
  • m
    @User that seems like an easy fix, sure a PR would be great
  • m
    please include docs
  • g
    re: build tools — I’m feeling a little guilty as one person who brought this up. Ironically, I fought this battle myself, against other developers who wanted to overcomplicate our “build pipeline” long ago. Too many of us get lost in the “meta” of building a built system for building builds (I kid you not) and lose the forest for the trees.
  • g
    I put this in github, too — my favorite “build pipeline” was a Typescript compile on save hook built straight in to my IDE, and then let the CDN sort out the rest. It worked great because I could control the production environment.
  • g
    Unfortunately, HTMX can’t control the production environment, so some basic tools would be really helpful. For instance, you already have some great automated tests set up, and minification as well. I think a lot of this could be done on the github side after checkins. The important thing to avoid would be a lengthy “compile” step that has to happen before you can check your work.
  • m
    @User I'm just a simple cave man...
  • m
    your build tools serve only to confuse and frighten me
  • m
    btw, thanks for all the input on github, I'm still slammed but hoping to be available again in September, really appreciate the contributions
  • g

    https://i.imgflip.com/4bhflu.jpgâ–ľ

  • g
    No worries on being busy — my pull requests can wait. I’m very interested in the potential of what you’ve built, so I’ll keep plugging away, if that’s ok. Maybe we can chat when you free up in September?
  • m
    yeb
  • p
    hello
  • b
    Is anyone else able to confirm whether the 
    htmx:afterOnLoad
    event is being triggered after a successful htmx request using 0.0.8? In my tests it is not...
  • b
    Added some automated tests to help confirm this: https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/pull/166
  • g
    Hey y'all!!! I was wondering if there are any thought, guides or best practices toward managing js behaviors (sprinkles) with htmx? more specifically: if there a need for something like https://github.com/rstacruz/onmount or stimulus.js to manage/organize js spinkle code that would not fall in htmx realm of things ?
  • b
    @User It's in early development, but check out https://github.com/bigskysoftware/_hyperscript from the author of htmx.
  • g
    thank you! @User !
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