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  • r
    A built in way to handle errors would be 10/10
  • b
    Could probably do something with 
    hx-on
    now
  • g
    Hello. I want to load and show some content in a modal. Does it make any difference in performance if I create a whole html page and 
    hx-select
    the content to insert inside the modal, vs returning this content as an html fragment?
  • w
    Possibly, if e.g. the whole html page requires a ton of database hits or other things that are not necessary for the content in the modal
  • w
    Shouldn't the following work when 
    select
    input inside the form are changed? I'm not getting anything 🤷‍♂️ I also tried 
    "change from:select"
    Copy code
    <form
  id="my_id"
  method="post"
  hx-trigger="change"
  hx-target="#table"
>[...]</form>
  • g
    The html page would contain exactly the same content as the fragment, minus the standard html, head, body etc, tags. I guess the performance should be the same.
  • m
    @mysterious-toddler-20573 -- the autofocus issue for me was that I had it enabled on a different field that was preempting the field I was trying to opt into autofocus on HTMX-load
  • m
    mmm
  • c
    So, here’s someone that is interested in htmx from Montana! Let’s go!
  • m
    based and snow-pilled
  • m
    I’ve been doing this by always (usually 😉) setting the hx attributes with values that assume success, and then on the server side, if the form is invalid, I use the hx header attributes to change what HTMX should do with the response - swap method and target mostly. I think it’s working pretty well.
  • k
    complete noob question - could I use htmx to 'enhance' a static site built with Hugo?
  • o
    Interesting approach!
  • m
    yep
  • k
    Thanks
  • g
    yes, but you would need a server that serves HTML fragments for htmx to work. actually you could even put static HTML fragments in their own files, on the same server as the rest of your site, and get htmx to fetch and swap those into pages. the more dynamic the behaviour, the more you need an application server.
  • b
    Anyone have rules of thumb for when you use HTMX/Hyperscript/Alpine? Seems like you can use all 3 to accomplish similar goals
  • m
    htmx when you can accomplish your desired UX via pure hypermedia interactions without too much jankyness alpine.js/hyperscript for pure front end functionality such as toggling classes/visilibity alpine.js/hyperscript/vue.js/etc. for islands of interactivity where the front end needs exceed what hypermedia can handle picking between alpine.js/hyperscript: alpine.js if you are sane hyperscript otherwise
  • b
    I think jankyness was defined in Roy Fielding’s original paper
  • m
    LADS

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  • m
    I AM OFFICIALLY DECLARING MY CANDIDACY FOR THE CEO OF HTML
  • m
    😱
  • r
    Nice- already the CEO of HTML in some regards, just making the title official. 😉
  • m
    i view the selection process as a mere formality
  • k
    OK thanks for the heads up - I'm just 'testing' right now
  • g
    you're already the CEO of htmx, if they don't make you the CEO of HTML that's their L!
  • m
    only facts detected
  • q
    Is there a reason there's a difference in the way afterX events are raised between normal events and the events triggered via response headers?
  • m
    tell me more
  • q
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