I see you offer including a mention on the home page, how do we set that up?

yep, corporate sponsors get a logo on the front page: email me at htmx@bigsky.software and we'll get it set up

Done, cheers!

just got this on my inbox:

Are Modals something you guys would solve with server side rendering or something that you would solve with something like alpine.js

client side, and I'd consider using something like inline editing instead for many cases: https://htmx.org/examples/click-to-edit/

modals introduce client-side state you have to manage and don't feel super "web"-ish to me in many cases, obviously they are very popular however so I am not dogmatic about them

I agree, when I can avoid modals, I do

I am using modals for generic error responses from htmx requests. When server returns >400, it sends header with hx trigger event and additional error details. I’ve got dialog which listens for such event and toggles itself. It’s using alpinejs.

As @mysterious-toddler-20573 pointed out, it’s not really webish, but my project is on very early development stage and it made me not think about how to handle error messages on the UI side. The dialog is always there and waiting for the error event.

Powerful stuff

Thanks! Yep, that did the trick (had over complicated the issue by not relying on the inherent nature of the actual HTML form).

"vibrant ecosystem that is constantly innovating" oh please, hype train wagon is all you got. Those guys will look back and regret loosing years chasing trends.

We’ve all got to learn at our own pace. I get it. If you don’t have early web experience it can be really hard to see alternatives

Finally I can ask some questions!

Hey! So I'm actually starting out, decided to specialize in front-end and looking to create a stack(html css javascript) before I start learning. I'm deeply interested minimalism and this article really made me very interested in htmx/hyperscript. https://github.com/readme/featured/open-source-minimalism I have no clue where to start but I thought I'd share my idea with you guys. What would you recommend if you starting out in web development? Where would htmx/hyperscript fit in? An alternate route I've been considering is Svelte/tailwindCSS/typescript I don't use any of this technology but I greatly appreciate the innovation that's been created! P. S. Here's to being a future htmx developer!

Hi there, welcome! If you are really interested in getting into front end as a career, I would unfortunately have to recommend that you pick up React. It is going to be far, far easier for you to get a job with that on your resume. Svelte is also popular, but I would maybe look at Vue if you aren't interested in React. htmx really isn't very hard when compared with those tools, so once you have a job all sorted out you can come back and look at it, but, from a career standpoint, at this point it is very niche. Not to discourage you looking in to htmx, but we all have to be practical and put food on the table!

React in the streets, but htmx... 👀

I’d start out by reading Part 1 of https://hypermedia.systems/ because it’ll give you a great foundation for understanding everything else and prevent you being brainwashed by SPA stuff

i'm generally not a web developer, but currently looking at putting together a simple dashboard that would receive and display a list of kv pairs. this sounds a bit backwards for what i understand htmx is (my dom is defined by the universe of keys sent from the server, rather than what's in my html). is htmx the wrong tool for this?

I'm having a little problem with browser history that I don't quite understand how to fix. I have a site where you play a game and when the other player takes a turn, the game state will refresh (via htmx sse events). I don't want these refreshes to add browser history though. Right now you have to hit "back" for every turn before you can get out of the game. You can see what I mean here https://gameplay.fly.dev

does it matter if you use named or data only events?

this line changed my life

hx-vals="js:{focused_element_name: document.activeElement.name}"

🙂 one of my favorite things about this library is that you can usually fix your problem by returning to HTML, not moving away for it. sorry about the regression!

I've had this happen to me as well a number of times. It's very refreshing.

retvrn

So I'm cosplaying a full-stack dev at work because I wanted to get a more holistic view on one project. Wiring up an existing vue frontend to a new backend. The hoops frontend devs jump through because they don't feel like asking for a new method or a parameter are impressive and scary, and I lost an hour trying to figure out why they did what they did until I noticed they somehow invented AND filter logic given only OR filter, in a fragile way which I immediately broke. Seems like the biggest drag on productivity isn't exactly the complexity of tooling, but rather a somewhat arbitrary line along which people have to fracture a project and the whole organization of the work…

I should try to partisan htmx into this corp 🙂

many such cases