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Question about the “10 open stacks per org” thing. I already know our org is not going to be buying an account as it’s just a random set of engineers who are using Graphite. What happens when I run

gt stack submit

now? If there are already 10 open stacks will it still push to Github? Can I just not review on Graphite anymore?

gt stack submit

won’t push additional stacks if you’re over the 10 open stack limit once the new plans roll out. A couple questions: 1. What would help convince your org to pay? If it’s only a few engineers that are using us the $ amount shouldn’t be meaningful since we only charge for active Graphite users (creating, reviewing, or merging PRs on Graphite) 2. If we were to offer a way to pay as an individual, would you be able to expense Graphite personally?

1. There is probably nothing that would have convinced them, since I think they see it as a privacy thing. Tbh I think they’d prefer we not use your product at all, but it’s such a big development boost I can’t not use it. And they haven’t come out explicitly saying not to use it 2. Potentially, but no promises

sorry, to clarify, does 10 open stacks mean “maximum 10 open stacks per org with unlimited number of diffs per stack” or “maximum 10 open diffs per org?”

The former - each stack can have as many open diffs/PRs as you’d like!

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Congrats!

i'd be very interested in an individual pricing option too, as in i pay for myself and i can use graphite across all the orgs i work in. especially in open source orgs that might not have a foundation for centralised billing, having an org subscription won't work, and even for the ones that have one, managing a per active user subscription is a lot of work, so i wouldn't want to ask for it

👋 who can i talk with to setup talks btwn Graphite and my org Canopy (we have several engineers using the beta and have loved the experience so far) my team wanted to set up sometime to discuss the pricing options and learn more about Graphite as we are considering getting one of the team plans. Please dm me and we can exchange emails and begin the conversations around this

Me! ✋ DMing you

CONGRATS!!! You all are killing it! So excited to see the next chapter of Graphite 🙂

if a stack has just 1 PR, does it count towards the usage limit? i currently use graphite to push all my branches, so in case i can't get my company to pay, would need to know so i can change my workflow.

A single PR won’t count as an open stack - only 2 or more open dependent PRs will count as a stack, and as mentioned above each open stack can have as many PRs as you want

My company wont consider it until SOCII certs are complete sad parrot

Type 1 is complete and we should be getting our Type 2 report any day now!

I'm impatiently waiting 😆

Super exciting 🔥

So. I love all of you. But $30 per user ($20 for early adopters) is… not great. By the “does this provide $30 worth of value for each user every month over using git directly” argument, obviously Graphite is worth it. But when comparing to free tools (like https://github.com/ejoffe/spr), it’s a harder sell. I’ll miss the ability to actually iterate through code review comments using keyboard shortcuts (and view them in context), but I think I’ll live. If you were to offer, say, a free (or $5) plan with 2 open stacks per user, and the ability to pay (more) only for those users who exceed that, I’d be very interested.

@Tudor Bosman do you feel like the active user-based pricing doesn’t do enough to mitigate this? If you truly feel like you’re only getting $5/month of value from Graphite, what can we build for you & team that would make it worth $20-30/month? Y’all were some of our earliest adopters and we’d love to make this work for Rockset - happy to chat more over DMs. The reality is that for $5/month we won’t be able to build a sustainable business, which would mean that Graphite disappears for everyone.

How does one sign up for the paid plan? Are you going to send out another email when we can sign up?

You can sign up at https://app.graphite.dev/settings/billing!

Have you considered a subscription plan for only the CLI? For teams and companies that cannot use the Graphite UI, it’s harder to get the full value for the proposed cost.

Interesting - why can’t your team use the UI?

We have a variety of internal tools dependent on the Github UI. Maybe that was a silly decision on our end. Even then, not everyone wants to use the dedicated UI and I could see a CLI pricing tier capture a set of customers that want a professional stacking tool and are willing to pay a smaller cost for it. Without it, these users will almost certainly pay nothing and go elsewhere.

@Julian Delerme FYI, our free tier is quite generous (most GitHub orgs are not hitting our 10 stack limit), so those users can continue stacking and pay nothing.

Nice, that’s great!

following up here with an update: 🌏 graphite is now accepting international payments! you can sign up for the team plan by going to https://app.graphite.dev/settings/billing also friendly reminder that the team plan is

33%

off ($20/seat/mo) for all of our early adopters (applied automatically) until august 7th! thank you for being on team graphite and let us know if you have any questions 🙂