# š£āgeneral
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tyja9
05/21/2023, 9:35 PMi'm more erg than monero now, but 5 years ago monero was way better than erg - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:35 PMYou can dip in and dip out between each use case. Jin and Jang - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:36 PMYing and Yang. I don't even know how to write it. - t
tyja9
05/21/2023, 9:36 PMyou need an on chain and off chain wallet - t
tyja9
05/21/2023, 9:36 PMor some sort of seperation, and it can act as the go-between - t
tyja9
05/21/2023, 9:36 PMand it scrambles the association with your actual wallet? - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:37 PMOn-ramping and off-ramping into a L2 private layer is not as easy as it sounds. Look at Tornado or Aztek. It's not perfect. - t
tyja9
05/21/2023, 9:37 PMhonestly i need this for the first ergo summit - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:37 PMAlso look at lightning, many privacy challenges. - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:38 PMMost of bitcoin privacy gains have been through lightning. and lightning didn't even start until almost 10 years of Bitcoin existance. - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:38 PMThis chain is too young, no need to rush things. - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:38 PMWhen they have lightning privacy figured out we can just plug and play given the eUTXO model. - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:42 PM(re @louissignet : When they have lightning privacy figured out w...) Imo it wont be solved anytime soon - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:43 PMMonero is money, a currency that is for using and spending. I don't 'hold' Monero as an investment - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:44 PM635 unread? - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:44 PM - t
tyja9
05/21/2023, 9:44 PMwell that's definitely the point - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:44 PM - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:44 PM(re @AustenMilbarge : 635 unread?) I was almost at 1k - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:44 PMYet people declare ergo dead - t
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thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:44 PMIām just gonna have to start here - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:45 PMCan someone TLDR me the last 4 hours of this chat? - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:45 PMThanks. - t
thecolj
05/21/2023, 9:45 PM(re @AustenMilbarge : Can someone TLDR me the last 4 hours of this c...) No. - t
tyja9
05/21/2023, 9:45 PMErgo will be coming to a decision about the fate of the twitter account. - t
tyja9
05/21/2023, 9:46 PMThis is the announcement