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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:40 PM
    I want to see data the clearly shows lower engagement after account takeover
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:40 PM
    I'd just like data period
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:40 PM
    šŸ˜‚
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:40 PM
    Lol
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:40 PM
    Let's cut in close so we know what we are fighting for and the character of the people involved.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:41 PM
    Ask Glasgow he's usually pretty good at collecting that kind of data
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:41 PM
    it's not a good faith situation when the resolution is attacking someone that doesn't agree with your position
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:41 PM
    And as for moral or ethical reason, it’s Twitter, who cares. If the situation was reversed I would be questioning why they didn’t have control of the account in the first place
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:42 PM
    Also the backlash from the ETC community is underwhelming. Like there isn’t much of them, and the ones there are are probably not on Twitter
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:42 PM
    (re @cryptoquokka : I want to see data the clearly shows lower eng...) Engagement for what? Will be down everywhere for crypto anyway since then.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:42 PM
    (re @R : Engagement for what? Will be down everywhere f...) Yeah lol. Will be hard to find legitimate proof
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:42 PM
    293 messages this am, i gave up after 200, i assume it's all similar :)
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:42 PM
    Didn’t it also happen around the merge? Difficulty algo probably had a much bigger impact
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:42 PM
    (re @dadreboi : 293 messages this am, i gave up after 200, i a...) You would be correct
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:43 PM
    GM anyway ERGO!
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:43 PM
    (re @R : Engagement for what? Will be down everywhere f...) Yes but would except rank to improve with increased engagement?
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:43 PM
    Well, here I disagree. The whole way this was handled, start to finish, is why we are continuing to have this discussion. EF never really explained. They made the decision with zero community involvement and it suggest they might do the same later, which reflects badly on everyone involved, no matter how smoothly Armeanio tries to frame it.
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:43 PM
    On that aspect anon1111 is exactly right.
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:44 PM
    But, we don't live in a perfect world. So, the questions it raises are: 1) how do we prevent that kind of choice in the future? The honest answer is we can't.
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:45 PM
    Twitter requires username and password, which means you have to trust someone.
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:46 PM
    And the damage is done. The bad decision is made. I don't really give q flip about ETC or their feelings, but I do wonder about the EF now.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:46 PM
    (re @ady2333 : Yes but would except rank to improve with incr...) Ranks gone down btw from around 180 to maybe 280
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:46 PM
    Lots of NDAs and things they have to be trusted with, like a Twitter account. Will they pull a Charles if there is a divisive hard fork in the future?
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:47 PM
    Good question. I wonder now where I didn't before.
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:47 PM
    And givingnthe account back doesn't solve those problems.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:47 PM
    (re @ady2333 : Yes but would except rank to improve with incr...) So you think if people would’ve approved and the account had value we would’ve increased in rank no matter what? Even tho the chain pretty much stopped and the merge hype faded
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:48 PM
    (re : And givingnthe account back does...) Yes, but at the end of the day that leads you to making a choice either you can or can't get over it with or without further action.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:48 PM
    (re @R : So you think if people would’ve approved and t...) No I would except if there was increased engagement from the twitter the rank would improve
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:48 PM
    If you can't you make a choice for yourself
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:48 PM
    Considering if the market goes down it does so for other coins too
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