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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:22 PM
    (re @ady2333 : Event did happen ofc but so far not seen any t...) Maybe we’d be at 40c otherwise. Or $2. Poor indicator.
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    mattam

    05/21/2023, 2:23 PM
    EF is a thing that exists currently. But if you want change, miner vote is the established way to do that.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:23 PM
    (re @R : Maybe we’d be at 40c otherwise. Or $2. Poor in...) Maybe but still can't see any benefits as of now
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 2:24 PM
    there is a slight gap between miner vote and twitter presence
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 2:24 PM
    but this should be a vote nonetheless
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:24 PM
    This is reasonable. But, I have to say anon1111's bullying and tactics is making less receptive to the argument.
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    muffinator

    05/21/2023, 2:25 PM
    I think either we give it back it better late than never or we keep it and hope people forget/care less with time
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:25 PM
    (re : I think either we give it back it...) Issue will go away with time so isn't a big deal
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:25 PM
    (re : but this should be a vote nonetheless) Votings are for the chain, community can do what it wants beyond that but doesn’t control the twitter
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:25 PM
    But I wouldn't say it's had any benefit for us
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    mattam

    05/21/2023, 2:26 PM
    It’s the only mode of governance
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:26 PM
    (re : It's a bear market, dude. Correl...) I didnt say anything about price, its just a silly hill to die on that I happen to strongly disagree with
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:26 PM
    Maybe we should also vote to see who core devs can follow on twitter, or what clothes they wear
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:27 PM
    It's very old drama from 2017 won't change between them. I think the most productive outcome is make it an account focused on the benefits on mining and PoW projects. Give multiple projects tweetdeck access have some generic guidelines on posts. Both Charles and Bob lose in a way. Miners win which is best post merge.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:29 PM
    (re : This is reasonable. But, I have ...) Im not trying to bully sorry if it came off like that - when you are in a disagreement with people who want to sweep something under the rug and reject discussion, you sort of have to make a ruckus
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:29 PM
    Yeah probably best option at the moment
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:29 PM
    Clearly a mistake. But, many mistakes in thus life you have to end up living with. The question is what fixes this mistake and nothing does. Give it back, ETC community doesn't really change community. Charles believes we ended up helping scsm coin. The other side of this conversation has license to go on ad infinitum about how stupid giving it back was, but as aberg states, that probably dies after a few years. But, my view, is that it would die anyway, no matter what we do.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:29 PM
    (re : fairly sure it's necessary to hav...) This is exactly the reason, Charles talks about it too. This purpose of the twitter for ETC was to build it up and use it to get listed on those greasy CEX’s that’s why even though it’s not a ETC twitter it still has 100’s of thousands of followers. They’re clearly bots and not devoted ETC community members.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:29 PM
    Some historical context. https://cryptocurrency.market/ethereum-classic-for-investors-11-2017-q1-update-with-former-ethereum-co-founder-charles-hoskinson/
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:29 PM
    (re @Armeanio : It's very old drama from 2017 won't change bet...) I support for for the record, thanks
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:30 PM
    (re : Clearly a mistake. But, many mis...) Armenia made a good suggestion don't make it an ergo centric account
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:30 PM
    Make it into general pow
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:30 PM
    (re @AustenMilbarge : This is exactly the reason, Charles talks abou...) It’s hasn’t worked, so I’m impartial to the whole thing. Just head down DCA’ing. It will blow over.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:30 PM
    It was my initial proposal to bob.
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:30 PM
    Sure you are. You want your way, a coerced moral choice is a bad moral choice too.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:30 PM
    He said oh I'm going to contact twitter and resolve it. I said I would do the same, given the situation, have fun. Let's talk after.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:30 PM
    Doesn't necessarily need his approval
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    cafebedouin

    05/21/2023, 2:32 PM
    Right. Bob doesn't want that because it's an ETC account. Charles doesn't want us to give to ETC because he thinks its a scam chain, and hey, why not put these followers to good use. Reasonable arguments.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:32 PM
    (re : Sure you are. You want your way,...) When I voice my opinion it's coercion? Surprised by the accusation
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 2:32 PM
    (re : Right. Bob doesn't want that bec...) Yeah but bob isn't etc. I'm sure there will be some members of etc that would be receptive
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