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  • Why does it have to wrap twice?
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:19 PM
    Why does it have to wrap twice?
  • Rosen can bridge BTC to ADA directly
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:19 PM
    Rosen can bridge BTC to ADA directly
  • (re : *<PsychADAlias> Oh really?*) Yep
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:22 PM
    (re : Oh really?) Yep
  • https://twitter.com/Ergo_Platform/status/1642003905809879041/photo/1
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:22 PM
    https://twitter.com/Ergo_Platform/status/1642003905809879041/photo/1
  • Probably wont happen for a bit tho i would guess
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:22 PM
    Probably wont happen for a bit tho i would guess
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:22 PM

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668903786902847502/1095368326496125039/file_108905.jpg▾

  • Yeah won't be available at launch as BTC won't be available at launch
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:22 PM
    Yeah won't be available at launch as BTC won't be available at launch
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:24 PM
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668903786902847502/1095368668768129195/futurama-yes.mp4
  • Ergo infrastructure is kind of accountant on backend for multiple chains
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:26 PM
    Ergo infrastructure is kind of accountant on backend for multiple chains
  • I don't understand this fully, but is this the case?
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    PsychADAlias

    04/11/2023, 3:26 PM
    I don't understand this fully, but is this the case?

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668903786902847502/1095369288107434064/Screen_Shot_2023-04-11_at_11.26.06_AM.png▾

  • The wallets dont need to be ergo wallets for the guard and watcher infrastructure to still work
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:26 PM
    The wallets dont need to be ergo wallets for the guard and watcher infrastructure to still work
  • (re @NoahErgo : *The wallets dont need to be ergo wallets for t...*) What’s the market cap?
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:26 PM
    (re @NoahErgo : The wallets dont need to be ergo wallets for t...) What’s the market cap?
  • (re : *<PsychADAlias> I don't understand this fully, ...*) to me this seems like doesnt make any sense just jargon put together. Nipopows are unrelated
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:27 PM
    (re : I don't understand this fully, ...) to me this seems like doesnt make any sense just jargon put together. Nipopows are unrelated
  • I guess I just don't understand how things go between Ergo and Cardano without wrapping
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    PsychADAlias

    04/11/2023, 3:28 PM
    I guess I just don't understand how things go between Ergo and Cardano without wrapping
  • They can't with Rosen as I understand. Spectrum plans to implement native swaps (no wrapping), but it's very early in development.
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    mattam

    04/11/2023, 3:29 PM
    They can't with Rosen as I understand. Spectrum plans to implement native swaps (no wrapping), but it's very early in development.
  • Btc <> cardano is possible without wrapping on ergo, rosen acts as backend tracking the multisig wallets and is kind of a traffic controller for each chain. It doesnt require btc > erg > ada
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:31 PM
    Btc <> cardano is possible without wrapping on ergo, rosen acts as backend tracking the multisig wallets and is kind of a traffic controller for each chain. It doesnt require btc > erg > ada
  • So does it basically go from BTC to ADA?
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    PsychADAlias

    04/11/2023, 3:32 PM
    So does it basically go from BTC to ADA?
  • (re : *<PsychADAlias> I guess I just don't understand...*) They will be wrapped tokens
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:32 PM
    (re : I guess I just don't understand...) They will be wrapped tokens
  • Why does the infographic above only describe locking and minting r-tokens?
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    mattam

    04/11/2023, 3:32 PM
    Why does the infographic above only describe locking and minting r-tokens?
  • itll be something like rERG on cardano and rADA on ergo
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:33 PM
    itll be something like rERG on cardano and rADA on ergo
  • (re : *<PsychADAlias> So does it basically go from BT...*) That is the idea yes
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:34 PM
    (re : So does it basically go from BT...) That is the idea yes
  • btc wrapped directly on cardano
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:34 PM
    btc wrapped directly on cardano
  • (re @NoahErgo : *itll be something like rERG on cardano and rAD...*) You mean you can do swaps between rADA and rBTC directly?
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:34 PM
    (re @NoahErgo : itll be something like rERG on cardano and rAD...) You mean you can do swaps between rADA and rBTC directly?
  • no it wouldnt work like that. One sec
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:34 PM
    no it wouldnt work like that. One sec
  • Cardano to ergo: ADA > rADA, then can swap wrapped ada with whatever liquidity pools for rADA are created on spectrum Ergo to Cardano: ERG > rERG, then can swap wrapped erg using liquidity pools on minswap, sundaeswap etc. using an rERG/ADA pool for example Bitcoin to ergo would be: BTC > rBTC on ergo, same as above with rADA Bitcoin to Cardano would be similar to rBTC on ergo, but it would be a different asset because of different chains And as bitcoin doesnt have native tokens i dont think you could bridge anything to btc
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:38 PM
    Cardano to ergo: ADA > rADA, then can swap wrapped ada with whatever liquidity pools for rADA are created on spectrum Ergo to Cardano: ERG > rERG, then can swap wrapped erg using liquidity pools on minswap, sundaeswap etc. using an rERG/ADA pool for example Bitcoin to ergo would be: BTC > rBTC on ergo, same as above with rADA Bitcoin to Cardano would be similar to rBTC on ergo, but it would be a different asset because of different chains And as bitcoin doesnt have native tokens i dont think you could bridge anything to btc
  • You have to understand how it works for it to make sense. All of the computing for wrapping and security verification happens with ergo smart contracts. It doesnt matter which chain is being bridged to. If there are multisig wallets connected to the rosen network, they could transact with each other on different chains even if not bridging ergo directly because all of the computing for the rosen bridging is happens on ergo and not each of those chains. Ergo is like smart contract brain for all the different chain multisig wallets
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:43 PM
    You have to understand how it works for it to make sense. All of the computing for wrapping and security verification happens with ergo smart contracts. It doesnt matter which chain is being bridged to. If there are multisig wallets connected to the rosen network, they could transact with each other on different chains even if not bridging ergo directly because all of the computing for the rosen bridging is happens on ergo and not each of those chains. Ergo is like smart contract brain for all the different chain multisig wallets
  • In theory, this hasnt been done yet ;)
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:43 PM
    In theory, this hasnt been done yet ;)
  • Interesting
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    PsychADAlias

    04/11/2023, 3:45 PM
    Interesting
  • (re : *<PsychADAlias> Interesting*) Read this “actions” section https://github.com/rosen-bridge#actions
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    thecolj

    04/11/2023, 3:45 PM
    (re : Interesting) Read this “actions” section https://github.com/rosen-bridge#actions
  • btw, if I wanted to learn to mint NFTs and create a vending machine, where could I go to learn that?
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    PsychADAlias

    04/11/2023, 3:50 PM
    btw, if I wanted to learn to mint NFTs and create a vending machine, where could I go to learn that?
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