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hello @kapa.ai, how would you deploy elementary in production using prefect?
k
A message from kapa.ai
To deploy Elementary in production using Prefect, you should follow these general steps: 1. Install the Elementary dbt package in your production dbt project. 2. Set up the Elementary CLI in an environment where Prefect can execute it. This means installing the Elementary Python package and ensuring network access to your data warehouse and the relevant
profiles.yml
file. 3. Configure your Prefect flow to orchestrate the execution of Elementary CLI commands (such as
edr monitor
,
edr report
, or
edr send-report
). You can run these commands after your dbt jobs finish or on a schedule that fits your needs. 4. Ensure permissions: The CLI needs read/write access to the Elementary schema and the ability to read all project schemas. A typical flow would look like: - Run your dbt job (e.g.,
dbt run
,
dbt test
). - After the dbt job completes, trigger the Elementary CLI command using Prefect (e.g.,
edr send-report --env prod
). You can generate the required CLI profile using
dbt run-operation elementary.generate_elementary_cli_profile
and use it in your Prefect environment. For more details and examples, see the [Elementary in production documentation](https://docs.elementary-data.com/oss/deployment-and-configuration/elementary-in-production) and related community discussions, which confirm that users orchestrate Elementary runs from Prefect in a similar way to other orchestrators like Airflow or MWAA. The process is controlled via parameters in your dbt package and CLI arguments, so whoever manages your dbt repo can fine-tune the setup as needed [Deploying with Prefect discussion](https://slack.com/archives/C02CTC89LAX/p1681967456519919), [Production deployment guide](https://docs.elementary-data.com/oss/deployment-and-configuration/elementary-in-production). If you need to send reports or alerts to Slack, configure the relevant integrations and use the appropriate CLI commands in your Prefect flow. If you have more specific requirements or run into issues, the Elementary team encourages reaching out on their Slack community for tailored advice.
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@kapa.ai we trigger dbt cloud jobs through the api in our prefect flow so we dont have dbt core installed. As long as elementary can read off a profiles.yml, do we need dbt core installed as well?
k
A message from kapa.ai
Based on the available knowledge sources, you do not need to have dbt-core installed in the environment where you run the Elementary CLI, as long as you have the required
profiles.yml
file and the Elementary CLI installed. The Elementary CLI uses the connection details from
profiles.yml
to connect directly to your data warehouse and read the necessary metadata and artifacts that the dbt Cloud job has already written to the warehouse. This approach is confirmed in several community discussions and documentation. For example, users running dbt jobs in dbt Cloud and then running Elementary CLI in a separate environment (such as Prefect, Airflow, or a CI server) only need to ensure that the CLI has access to the correct
profiles.yml
and network access to the data warehouse. There is no mention of needing dbt-core installed in the CLI execution environment for this workflow. The only requirement is that the dbt package (including Elementary) is run in dbt Cloud, and the CLI can then operate independently using the warehouse data and the connection profile [dbt cloud integration guide](https://docs.elementary-data.com/oss/integrations/dbt), [Slack discussion on CLI requirements](https://slack.com/archives/C02CTC89LAX/p1682073211102629). However, note that some advanced features in the CLI may benefit from access to the dbt project directory, but this is not mandatory for standard report generation or alerting. In summary: You do not need dbt-core installed in your Prefect environment to run Elementary CLI, as long as you have a valid
profiles.yml
and the CLI can access your data warehouse.
a
@kapa.ai we use keypair for our user in our profile.yml, how would we securely provide this in our profiles.yml configuration with respect to prefect
k
A message from kapa.ai
To securely provide a keypair for your user in the
profiles.yml
configuration when running Elementary with Prefect, you should avoid hardcoding sensitive information directly in the YAML file. Instead, use environment variables for sensitive fields (such as the private key and passphrase), and inject these secrets at runtime through your orchestration platform (Prefect). A common approach, as discussed for Airflow and KubernetesPodOperator (which is analogous to Prefect's Kubernetes or Docker tasks), is to use a minimal
profiles.yml
that references environment variables, and then inject the actual secrets using your orchestrator's secret management capabilities. For example, your
profiles.yml
might look like:
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yaml elementary:   outputs:     default:       type: snowflake       account: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_ACCOUNT') }}"       user: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_USER') }}"       private_key_path: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_PRIVATE_KEY_PATH') }}"       private_key_passphrase: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_PRIVATE_KEY_PASSPHRASE') }}"       role: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_ROLE') }}"       warehouse: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_WAREHOUSE') }}"       database: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_DATABASE') }}"       schema: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_SCHEMA') }}"       threads: 4
You would then use Prefect's secret management (or your infrastructure's secret injection, such as Kubernetes secrets or environment variables) to provide the actual values at runtime, ensuring that the private key and passphrase are never stored in plaintext in your repository or container image. This method is confirmed as best practice in the Elementary community for other orchestrators and is directly applicable to Prefect as well [Airflow/Kubernetes example](https://slack.com/archives/C02CTC89LAX/p1665489623025739). If you are using a file-based private key, you can inject the key as a file at runtime (for example, mounting it as a secret volume or writing it to a temporary file in your Prefect task), and reference its path in the
profiles.yml
via an environment variable. Summary: - Reference sensitive fields in
profiles.yml
using
env_var
. - Inject secrets at runtime using Prefect's secret management or your infrastructure's secret injection. - Never hardcode private keys or passphrases in your YAML or code. If you need a concrete example for Prefect, the same pattern as described for Airflow/Kubernetes applies: use environment variables and inject secrets securely at runtime [Airflow/Kubernetes example](https://slack.com/archives/C02CTC89LAX/p1665489623025739).
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@kapa.ai i would be using ecs as a way to deploy prefect. Does that mean i would supply the profiles.yml file in the docker image? How would i inject the keypair variable in docker?
k
A message from kapa.ai
When deploying Prefect on ECS and running Elementary, you do need to make the
profiles.yml
file available in your Docker image or as a mounted file. The best practice, as discussed in the knowledge sources, is to keep the
profiles.yml
in the image (or mount it at runtime), but reference sensitive values—like your keypair path or passphrase—using environment variables rather than hardcoding them. For injecting the keypair variable in Docker on ECS, you should: 1. Reference environment variables in your `profiles.yml`:
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yaml    elementary:      outputs:        default:          type: snowflake          account: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_ACCOUNT') }}"          user: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_USER') }}"          private_key_path: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_PRIVATE_KEY_PATH') }}"          private_key_passphrase: "{{ env_var('SNOWFLAKE_PRIVATE_KEY_PASSPHRASE') }}"          # ... other fields ...
This approach is confirmed as best practice for orchestrators like Airflow and Kubernetes, and the same pattern applies to ECS since it supports environment variable injection [Airflow/Kubernetes example](https://slack.com/archives/C02CTC89LAX/p1665489623025739). 2. Inject the keypair at runtime: - In ECS, you can inject environment variables into your container using ECS task definitions. For file-based keys, you can use AWS Secrets Manager or S3 to securely store the key, and then have your container entrypoint script write the key to a file (e.g.,
/tmp/snowflake_key
) at runtime, setting the
SNOWFLAKE_PRIVATE_KEY_PATH
environment variable to that file path. - This method ensures that the sensitive keypair is never baked into the image or stored in source control. This pattern—using environment variables and runtime secret injection—is the recommended way to securely handle sensitive credentials with Elementary and dbt in orchestrated environments [Airflow/Kubernetes example](https://slack.com/archives/C02CTC89LAX/p1665489623025739). If you need to inject a file, you can write the secret to a file in your container's startup script and reference its path in your
profiles.yml
. If you need more ECS-specific implementation details, the knowledge sources do not provide them, but the general approach above is confirmed as best practice for similar orchestrators.
a
@kapa.ai how do you point elementary to read the profiles.yml in image? whats the default path that elementary reads? is that enough or do you need to define the path where prfiles.yml lives
k
A message from kapa.ai
By default, Elementary looks for the
profiles.yml
file in the
~/.dbt/
directory (i.e., the
.dbt
folder in the home directory of the user running the command). If your
profiles.yml
is located there in your Docker image, Elementary will find it automatically and you do not need to specify the path. If your
profiles.yml
is located elsewhere in the image, you need to explicitly tell Elementary where to find it using the
--profiles-dir
flag. For example:
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edr monitor report --profiles-dir /path/to/your/profiles_dir
This is confirmed in multiple sources, including the documentation and community discussions. The CLI will look in the current working directory first, then in
HOME/.dbt/
, unless you override it with the
--profiles-dir
flag [CLI install & configure](https://docs.elementary-data.com/oss/cli-install), [Slack discussion](https://slack.com/archives/C02CTC89LAX/p1660829147664459), [GitHub issue](https://github.com/elementary-data/elementary/issues/1666). Summary: - Default path:
~/.dbt/profiles.yml
- If your file is elsewhere, use
--profiles-dir <path>
- If the file is in the default location, no need to specify the path