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    JustDalek_

    03/02/2023, 5:57 AM
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    Rachel

    03/03/2023, 7:33 AM
    @Kyle_Cloudflare explodiated live input
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    Kyle_Cloudflare

    03/03/2023, 9:06 PM
    As a heads up we're currently investigating a Stream-impacting incident https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/rk5zbj8z94nc
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    Kyle_Cloudflare

    03/03/2023, 9:49 PM
    Impact is resolved, we're monitoring
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    deepdev

    03/04/2023, 3:56 PM
    Hey how can I talk w Stream acct mgr? DM me thanks
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    ApocalypseCalculator

    03/05/2023, 5:07 AM
    any plans to support 4k on stream playback at present? 👀
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    deepdev

    03/06/2023, 3:27 PM
    Anyone here using WebRTC stream in production? Any input on reliability of streams that are 1-2hr in length? What about overall quality of streams when you’re publishing say 100s or 1000s of WebRTC streams daily?
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    altryne

    03/06/2023, 7:10 PM
    I'm getting a few of these on my videos: it's weird to, I'm testing on a video link that I know worked before, so maybe there's something I'm doing that interrupts encoding?
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    Rachel

    03/07/2023, 5:19 AM
    I personally am running a YouTube live re-broadcast (lofi girl) as a test stream (24x7), using gstreamer to encode H264 into VP9. So far it is pretty good.
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    Rachel

    03/07/2023, 5:22 AM
    the only interruption is when the live manifest from youtube expires and it needs to restart the encoder
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    Rachel

    03/07/2023, 9:08 AM
    as for the quality of the stream., that depends on the publisher network condition
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    Rachel

    03/07/2023, 9:08 AM
    also if the viewer has a good network condition as well
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    EduardLeap

    03/07/2023, 12:16 PM
    you are doing webrtc to youtube???
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    deepdev

    03/07/2023, 1:35 PM
    That’s just a standard stream though right? Not WebRTC? A related question is if say I am creating a few thousand upstream connections out of a single datacenter, would you see that creating an issue w CF being able to handle that many 2-3mbps streams from one network connection to the CF edge location closest to my datacenter? I will only have a handful of datacenters across the US and each may be streaming a few 1000 streams.
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    Rachel

    03/07/2023, 7:40 PM
    WebRTC is even more so for requiring good network connection, because the transport is over UDP. If the publisher network starts dropping packets, ALL viewers will have dropped frames.
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    Rachel

    03/07/2023, 7:41 PM
    That's the tradeoff you are making for extremely low latency
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    Rachel

    03/07/2023, 7:42 PM
    The other way around, YouTube live to Stream (WebRTC)
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    deepdev

    03/07/2023, 8:24 PM
    The publisher network will be excellent and reliable in my case. I’m just more curious if CF sees any issues w that many streams originating from a single network origin / datacenter?
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    RobotSail

    03/07/2023, 8:49 PM
    Hi all, I have a project design for a CDN-type system which leverages IPFS under the hood to make the distribution of immutable data blobs (videos, images, binaries, etc.) more manageable and less stressful on the network. Personally, I don't have much experience with CDN technology, nor do I know what pain points or challenges those systems face, but Matthew Jacob recommended me to message this channel about it, since CF Stream is geared towards video distribution. I've written a rough outline for what the system would consist of, and how a CDN could be built around it. Would someone from Stream be willing to give it a look and tell me if it could be useful at all, the input would be hugely appreciated? Link is here: https://github.com/ipfs-cluster/ipfs-operator/discussions/100
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    Rachel

    03/07/2023, 11:08 PM
    It is in open beta. Try it out and see how it works. Beware, there be dragons for beta software.
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    deepdev

    03/08/2023, 12:40 AM
    Oh.
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    deepdev

    03/08/2023, 12:41 AM
    Any idea when a production version will ship…. Not sure this is right fit if it’s in beta.
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    calebhailey

    03/08/2023, 2:37 AM
    Hi there 👋 I have been wanting to explore Stream as an alternative to hosting product demo videos on YouTube (because privacy), but one of my biggest questions was about using an HTML5 video element instead of the Cloudflare Player iframe. It seems this just works ™️ if you check the option to "Enable MP4 Downloads" on the video and just point the
    <video><source>
    element at the resulting mp4 URL. Is this an antipattern (am I doing it wrong)? What are the drawbacks of this approach vs the embedded player? Is this going to be cost prohibitive? The docs don't provide a lot of information on this approach, so I'm hoping y'all will know. Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
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    poacher2k

    03/08/2023, 2:11 PM
    normally you'd use something like hls.js (https://github.com/video-dev/hls.js) or https://videojs.com/ for this
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    poacher2k

    03/08/2023, 2:12 PM
    you could upload the videos to #940663374377783388 too though
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    Rachel

    03/08/2023, 3:19 PM
    Do you mind if I ask why not use our player (such as ) or even third-party player? While you can use the download link for video source, do keep in mind about: 1. Billing may be counted not in your favor, as now it is billed per bytes, converted into minutes as a ratio of the total file size. Depending on the format and length, you may be billed for extra; 2. Download link video is not seekable; 3. No ABR with download link. Our official recommendation for the use of download link is when you are: 1. Building short-video style apps (such as tiktok); 2. Downloading for client-side offline viewing (such as Plex); 3. Showcasing with background splash video.
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    daniel_klungo

    03/08/2023, 7:16 PM
    I’m not familiar with the term “Showcasing with background splash video” - could you explain what this means?
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    Rachel

    03/08/2023, 7:17 PM
    You see some websites with a video playing in the background of the banner? Maybe half translucent? I call that background splash video, but people may call it differently
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    daniel_klungo

    03/08/2023, 7:19 PM
    Gotcha! Are there any specific downsides with using streaming for these?
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    Rachel

    03/08/2023, 7:32 PM
    It really depends on what you are doing, the biggest downside is no ABR, but for tiktoks and background video, they don't matter as much as they are likely played to completion or loop
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