> WHIP and WHEP must be used together — we do not yet support streaming using RTMP/SRT and playing using WHEP, or streaming using WHIP and playing using HLS or DASH. (coming soon)

Do you have a WHEP client?

Is it possible to cancel cloudflare stream easily?

I wan't to do 1 month only to discover the features so I can decide if I want to use it or not

Yes, you can pay for one month and then cancel through the Billing section in the Cloudflare dashboard.

Hi，I'm trying to use cloudflare live stream. I'm pushing my video using rtmp. But I'm get 15 seconds latency with both rtmp playback and hls playback. I'm wondering how can I get shorter latency like below 10 seconds. I've already seen the WHIP, but for some reason I must push my video using rtmp. Is there any solution?

Make sure your keyframe interval is set to something short like 2 seconds

I checked my gop on cloudflare,it shows 2 seconds. I don't know what is wrong.

15 seconds for hls playback is pretty good mine was like 30-45 seconds. Rtmp playback should be pretty realtime though like <1 second for me

Note that rtmp can't be played (at least not natively) in the browser so if you were viewing the stream in the browser for both playbacks they were both hls

I've also tried rtmp playback, still no good. It takes 10+ seconds as well

I'm playing with ffplay by the way.

@jet_1217 rtmp-based playback should have the lowest possible overhead. Can you DM me - the live input ID you were using for testing - the ffplay command you were using(ffplay might be doing some interesting buffering) - info on what your encoding setup(ie, vanilla OBS or something else) is like so I can take a peek 🙂

I know cloudflare supports HLS and DASH output, but does it support drop in replacement for LL-HLS and LL-DASH?

Don't believe so, no.

They're mostly focusing on WebRTC (so WHIP and WHEP)

- inputId : 12ad1c2f6d9ba97e0b6321ebfa4697b4 - ffplay command ffplay -analyzeduration 1 -fflags -nobuffer -probesize 32 -sync ext 'rtmps:// - I'm uploading rtmp stream with Agora SDK here is the input status Ingress bitrate: 4.1 Mbit/s Encoding video bitrate: 3.8 Mbit/s Encoding audio bitrate: 45.2 kbit/s FPS: 25 GOP: 25 Frames / 1.0014 Seconds

I think maybe you are right about the buffering thing of ffplay. My rtmp stream start with 10 even 15s sometimes after I start playing for a while. But I'm not sure that's the reason. Really appreciate your reply.

And sorry for the late reply caused by the time difference.🫶

Hello, I am developing a product similar to clubhouse and I want to use https://developers.cloudflare.com/stream/webrtc-beta/ for live streaming. I expect to have many viewers and just 2-3 talkers. However when I make a calculation with cloudflare stream it becomes very quick expensive. Example: 3 speakers and 100 viewers/listeners are viewing for 60 minutes. Total it means 3 * 100 * 60 = 18000 minutes are deliverd which results in $18. Is the calculation right and if so, how can I reduce this amount, especially considering the amount of viewers can increase by alot

Guessing it's something to do with the Agora SDK

If you try using

ffmpeg

to upload what do you get? You can upload any random video via

ffmpeg -i <INPUT_VIDEO_FILE_PATH> rtmps://<RTMP_URL>/<KEY>

try something like this and lemme know how it works

ffplay -analyzeduration 1 -fflags -nobuffer -flags low_delay -probesize 32 -sync ext

which is super close to your existing command but adds the

low_delay

also, are y'all broadcasting directly to us or going through agora? Going through agora may introduce latency but I'd be quite surprised if it was >1s

I guess it's going through agora. I'll test it and send you the results.

Hello, is there a visitor limit when we broadcast with cloudflare stream?

and when will we be able to add our own domain name here?

I've test it. The delay gets shorter, but it still grows to 15 seconds after I've player the url for a while. I'm trying to push direct to cloudflare without agora

And I'm also wondering whether cloudflare support rtmp instead of rtmps. My input only provided rtmps playback url

Really appreciate some help here. I'm stuck here that Agora mediaplayer seems only support rtmp, but no luck for rtmps. while cloudflare only support rtmps?

By “visitor limit” do you mean “number of concurrent viewers?” (No set limit on this, but we’d love to get to know anyone planning on events with 10k+ concurrent viewers so we can learn what you’re doing and support.