Gotcha, so it would be more cost effective for me to direct broadcast to these platforms and only use stream CDN for my web viewers then?

From the sound of it anways

If whatever you are streaming from can handle doing that yeah it could be, but the cost is pretty minimal imo but up to you 🙂

> No additional costs to serve global users Besides the standard ingest cost of $1/1000min, there is no additional cost for viewing. own site, cf player, twitch, youtube, etc

Like that's it. $1/1000min. Unless you want to store too, that's $5/1000min extra. But that's it. No fees for anything else

Oh that's another thing!

What counts as storage? Since the stream auto records I was confused. Is store cost always encofced to me or is it if I upload content?

you can turn off auto record. But if it's on, it does count towards storage

I did try to find a way but wasn't finding a setting, could you point me in the right direction?

With recording turned off cost of the additional streams would indeed be negligible for me as well I think as Unsmart mentioned

I found out the hard way (3 hours of troubleshooting) the cf player does not work for

rtmps

and

srt

streams (I have not tested webrtc streams yet) if you don't enable auto record. But you can delete the recording after stream ends (your own code would have to do this) to not count towards storage

Ah ok, is there like, a general timeframe to delete these for me to not incur the fee? Idk if it needs to be deleted within say an hour or 24 hours

Thank you so much for your insight by the way!

AH fantastic thank you so much!

All storage has to be prepaid which means you already have some amount of storage capacity. Not too sure what happens if you would go over the limit with how long your streams are if you forget to delete any previous recordings.

Ok so this helps clarify fees quite a bit. I guess I will give a try to setting some outputs using stream and see if it breaks the bank or not

A trick I've done is increase

timeoutSeconds

by 10 seconds and just delete the video in that amount of time (https://api.cloudflare.com/#stream-live-inputs-create-a-live-input)

Honestly this is being used for personal use and self development and not through a revenue generating business. A bit of a personal project to self host my content and own my own platform. Haha

May I ask what you use to broadcast your content TO cloudflare stream?

As of right now, OBS. But I'm working on a online webrtc streamer

Gotcha, thank you for your insight both of you! I will take this and try out using CF to rebroadcast for me to my platforms. I do have a dedicated box running a restreamer docker container but we had trouble with it today buffering everywhere except cloudflare stream.

I do have a question. For outputs, is there a way you can set the settings per output? Like if I stream into cloudflare at their max of 12,000kbps, but twitch only takes 6,000kbps in, but youtube will gladly take 12,000kbps; can I set it so it's only outputting to twitch at 6,000kbps, but full 12,000kbps in it's player and youtube? https://api.cloudflare.com/#stream-live-inputs-create-a-new-output,-connected-to-a-live-input I don't see any options here other than

enabled

Live transcoding is not available for outputs

Hey folks, I seem to have a caching issue of sorts.. Not sure how to resolve. Using the stream player via an embed locally, I see only 1 subtitle track, The same video inside cloudflare dashboard shows both the tracks I have on that video. is there a way to clear this cache? or prevent this from happening in the future?

Direct video link shows 2 captions as well, just my iframe one seems to show just 1

oh... cmd+R fixed it locally, so it seems that the captions is cached on client side 🤔 Not amazing, I check for the existense of both before I server the video, this is probably a bug with player. Where can I report?

On the live stream player, is it possible to turn off showing the number of people viewing? I do not want this information shared about my streams.

I too would like this, it can be misleading when using multiple platforms

Will it be possible to do many:many streams? Like imagine someone wanting to use streams ti build a discord like experience