# general-discussions
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Josh
11/14/2021, 8:28 PMYeh, your slow today - w
William | Chaos Management
11/14/2021, 8:28 PM👀 - w
William | Chaos Management
11/14/2021, 8:28 PMany lego news? - j
Josh
11/14/2021, 8:29 PM🧐 - s
Specy
11/14/2021, 11:13 PMFor real, all the cloudflare free package is too good to be true, where is the catch? Free pages, free SSL, free dns, free caching, free bandwidth, there Must be a catch, right? - s
Specy
11/14/2021, 11:13 PMToo good to be true, but I hope it is - j
Josh
11/14/2021, 11:18 PMNo catch 😉 all goodness - j
joe
11/14/2021, 11:18 PMcloudflare generates enough revenue from paying and enterprise customers that they can offer a very generous free plan to hobbyists and small businesses - j
joe
11/14/2021, 11:18 PMthere are still certain components on the free plans that become paid after a while, so for workers you get a free 100,000 requests a day but that is more than plenty for the vast majority of use cases - t
The Freelancer ;)
11/14/2021, 11:18 PM^^ this - t
The Freelancer ;)
11/14/2021, 11:19 PMthat's the great thing about Cloudflare - t
The Freelancer ;)
11/14/2021, 11:19 PMthey give people a great free plan, and they could end up with enterprise customers out of it - e
Erisa | Support Engineer
11/14/2021, 11:19 PMa lot of their paid customers either were previously free customers or were recommended it by free customers - d
Deleted User
11/14/2021, 11:19 PMThey also have money - t
The Freelancer ;)
11/14/2021, 11:20 PMyeah, and people start using a free plan for personal use - t
The Freelancer ;)
11/14/2021, 11:20 PMthen recommend Cloudflare to their employer, and their employer ends up on a business or enterprise plan - e
Erisa | Support Engineer
11/14/2021, 11:22 PMalso free zones give them lots of data about traffic and ddos attacks which ends up benefiting the paid customers - e
Erisa | Support Engineer
11/14/2021, 11:22 PMthey know more about what normal traffic looks like and more about how to stop different types of attacks properly - t
The Freelancer ;)
11/14/2021, 11:22 PMand the paid customers pay for the free customers - t
The Freelancer ;)
11/14/2021, 11:22 PMwhich in turn makes it better for paid customers so CF really has nothing to lose - d
DJtheRedstoner
11/14/2021, 11:24 PMpretty old post but still quite relevant: https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/88659/how-can-cloudflare-offer-a-free-cdn-with-unlimited-bandwidth/88685#88685 - s
Specy
11/14/2021, 11:52 PMI might get pro plan in the future if I get some donations, in the meanwhile I'm moving static websites to cloudflare pages and keep the VPS only for API - e
Erwin
11/15/2021, 12:30 AMI love how that post from Matthew still isn't the accepted answer.. I am sure he is still pretty annoyed by that and all the points he has been missing.. 😦 - e
Erwin
11/15/2021, 12:36 AMBut just to be clear.. it is those exact things that are the top 5 reasons when that question comes up immediately. They are very bullish on it too.. Matthew in his last all-hands meeting was saying that it has been great that we have been growing our large customers base as well as we did, but that we shouldn't lose sight of the growth of the lower tiers, including the free tier. - j
Jacob | Pages
11/15/2021, 1:15 AM$work spends like $25/mo with Cloudflare because of me using the free plan and then getting them to it at work. Certainly not a lot of money, but it's still something! - w
Walshy | Pages
11/15/2021, 2:02 PMSo - w
Walshy | Pages
11/15/2021, 2:02 PMDBs 👀 - w
Walshy | Pages
11/15/2021, 2:02 PMConnection done with WS over Tunnels. Very interesting - e
Erisa | Support Engineer
11/15/2021, 2:11 PMin future will be raw tcp though apparently 🤔