Good to know, thanks, I should have written more in that box, haha.

I asked about that use case on the forum: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/offline-first-durable-objects-kv/230015 Keen to follow your work here as I have pretty much the same goal. Do you have a github? You may also want to look into Fauna.com and MongoDB Realm

I imagine that'd be best accomplished via the use of client-side CRDTs and reconciliation server-side, but it's a neat idea all the same

I've previously found automerge (https://github.com/automerge/automerge) interesting for this kind of synchronization usecase (although I can't speak to its particular usefulness for whatever specific thing you might want to do)

@haneefmubarak Is cloudflare working on database product based on durable objects?

I can't meaningfully comment on any kind of roadmaps, but I don't quite understand your question either

Durable Objects basically gives you a mini-database (persistent storage) at the edge for each Durable Object that you create that you can access from within that Durable Object

see: https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/learning/using-durable-objects

ya, durable objects are already effectively a nosql database, just one that automatically dehydrates and rehydrates entries as JS objects.

But there is no query language.

We don't have a stringy query language, but there's a query API that we're carefully improving regularly: https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/durable-objects#transactional-storage-api

In addition to the basic CRUD operations, it supports various kinds of pre-indexed filtering along with atomic transactions

Is there something in particular that you would like to do or have in mind that you feel is not currently doable with the query API as it stands today?

personally i feel that a strongly typed query api is a far superior alternative to text based query and i'm glad it is the way it is

Yeah the concern that I always have with stringy query languages is the combined effects of trivial mistakes and injection

I would like to see a query language like WOQL https://terminusdb.com/docs/discussion/query/

WOQL is very powerful and easy to understand.

Gotcha. I can't speak to roadmaps, but that being said, DO provides a high-performance transactional KV store with range queries as a database. You could build whatever kind of DB you want on top of this in a reasonably efficient manner (AIUI most modern databases are built on top of transactional KV stores underneath) if that would be helpful for your usecase (and we'd love to hear about it in the channel if you do!)

> DO provides a high-performance transactional KV store with range queries Do you have a link to this? I can't find it anywhere on the DO site or searching

when is the new DO beta round and how do I get in? I've sent the request of course (in December).

Oh, duh! DO = Durable Objects. LOL - I'm so used to it meaning Digital Ocean. Hence I was confused about it being advertised here.

Hehe you’re not alone

It may be a while given how much work the team is still doing. However, when they do start adding more, it'd be good to know what use case you had in mind with Durable Objects?

some fancy real-time (web, progressive, native, desktop, whatever) app!

Shameless question: Is it possible to get into the durable objects beta? (I sent the request a day or two after the announcement last year)

You need to talk to @albert-zhao, he has the power 🤣

Shameless tag 🤣

Can you share what you'd like to try with Durable Objects? 🙂 There's a pause on adding people atm to ship stuff, so that's why many applications are on hold.

He is literally mentioned in the channel description... ahah

given the pause you mentioned, do we still need to share what we're going to do with DO? there is still a possibility to get into the beta?