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# durable-objects
  • i
    Good questions, artillery is a nice tool to test this type of stuff, we recently ran our first simple concurrency test with it, probably using this more and more in the next few weeks.
  • r
    Ok thanks. I'm really hoping that messages are arriving in the order they are sent. Otherwise I'll need to add some timestamp/index prefix 😦
  • i
    I think always a good practice if that's important for your game state, but adds indeed some complication
  • r
    Based on my testing, they always seem to arrive in the correct order, which is really good. The bug I encountered was an issue on my end 🙂
  • i
    Did you do some testing on payload size?
  • r
    I haven't tested that yet as I haven't encountered any limits so far
  • a
    From my testing, a bundled Worker throws an error if it receives a message 1 MiB or larger and does nothing (timeouts?) if trying to send a message larger than 1 MiB.
  • r
    Nice, 1MiB is large, more than enough!
  • a
    Client -> Worker size limit seems to be 
    1 MiB - 1 B
    for some reason - not 
    1 MiB
    like Worker -> Client 🙃
  • r
    Just for clarification, I'm talking about Client WS -> Durable Object
  • r
    Maybe the same limit occurs there
  • a
    I tested with Bundled Workers, but I'd imagine it's the same for Durable Objects
  • g
    Does anyone know if they announced any estimated dates for releasing DO to all customers? Or whether they will eventually add a cheaper workers subscription plan (e.g, $1/mo) with smaller limits?
  • e
    as of right now, there have been no announcements of estimated dates for release of DO or for any kind of cheaper subscription.
  • e
    cloudflare generally doesnt like to do ETAs so i wouldnt get my hopes up for one
  • g
    Okay, thanks @User !
  • a
    What's the easiest way people have found to iterate and debug workers with durable objects. The build/deploy/wait/test loop is just long enough that I keep getting distracted.
  • e
    I started using https://miniflare.dev, it has a support for durable objects (and practically everything workers related)
  • a
    wow! somebody did this outside of cf? impressive.
  • a
    will try it, thanks for pointer.
  • h
    Well, they work for CF now...
  • a
    makes sense 🙂
  • h
    And for a hosted solution, you should be able to use @User's https://workers.run
  • e
    oh, thank you, but I am afraid they would spend more time debugging workers.run than the DOs itself 😅
  • d
    What are durable objects
  • h
    Durable Objects are a way of storing Global State in Workers, in a way that there is only one version of each variable at any time, anywhere.
  • d
    Ooh interesting
  • e
    and I saw in here that some cool resources to get you started quickly are coming soon, so stay tuned!
  • d
    Thanks for letting me know! So how exactly does this differ from KV?
  • e
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