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# durable-objects
  • g
    That’s a reasonable limit
  • g
    So that’s good there’s no limit
  • b
    You can also use Workers KV inside of one, which is probably better for big blobs of non-transactional data
  • g
    Yeah
  • g
    The blog post mentioned the idea of building a database using durable objects and I was just theorizing how that would be done
  • g
    Since your indexes would need to be accessible from any worker serving a request
  • g
    But changes to said index should also probably be transactional
  • g
    You could maybe use the KV store
  • g
    This question along with others is probably why cloudflare teamed up with macrometa instead of building their own database products
  • b
    We'd (or at least I'd? I'm not speaking for the company here) love to offer a richer persistent storage API, we just have more work we do want/need to do on other DO sharp edges first.
  • s
    what's the reason that TCP connection is not available in workers?
  • s
    many database use TCP
  • g
    Probably because it requires a lot of development to do correctly
  • g
    And workers were built around HTTP first and foremost
  • g
    You can use websockets which are basically just TCP sockets
  • c
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  • g
    on that note, any ideas on when durable objects will become generally available?
  • g
    they have been out for almost a year now and im really eager to get a PR going for sveltekit to use the modular syntax, but sveltekit and other frameworks are more or less refusing to integrate the modular syntax until DO/workers come out of beta because there are some bugs as it stands now
  • g
    like for example, ``kv-asset-handler`` not supporting ES6 modules
  • c
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  • j
    oh no, discord slash commands are public? 🙇
  • g
    They have been for like 3 months but only recently became popular
  • g
    Copy code
    js
    // client.
    let storage = await this.storage.list({reverse: true, limit: 100});
    let backlog = [...storage.values()];
    backlog.reverse();
    backlog.forEach(value => {
      session.blockedMessages.push(value);
    });
  • g
    looking at the chat demo
  • g
    theres ``storage.list()`` but no documentation on the possible arguments allowed, or the limitations of it.
  • m
  • m
    Same as DO list I think
  • g
    I can follow up on this bug - are there other bugs that you're seeing specific to DOs? Workers are generally available themselves.
  • g
    No specific timeline yet, but we're working on several features we need to get them out the door (UI, billing, bug fixes)
  • g
    Well I submitted a PR that would resolve it but I’m waiting on the asset manifest being passed into module workers
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