# durable-objects
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Vanessa🦩
06/16/2021, 11:09 PMThanks. The page linked in the tweet forgot to mention that, even though it was an announcement specifically for Durable Objects. - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:09 PMso according to the rhetoric here, a single object does not scale well since its backed by a single worker and thus, a single thread. - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:10 PMie your bandwidth will be bottlenecked by the throughput limitations of that given worker - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:10 PMMy bad yeh - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:10 PMhttps://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/learning/how-kv-works was what I was thinking of. - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:11 PMI guess I fail to see why durable objects even expose a method of compute (and run on workers) in the first place. - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:12 PMThey cant have large enough arrays of data to actually do sorting or indexing, so I guess I dont get why they dont just abstract them away to some higher level KV api - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:12 PMI guess the real question is what is the limit of the single thread, how many requests per second can it handle - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:13 PMI would guess it depends - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:13 PMsome edge nodes might have different configs or CPUs than others - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:13 PMNaa, CF are very consistent with edge compute - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:13 PMI wasn't sure - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:13 PMbut I would imagine it would be in the thousands - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:14 PM@User Any idea on the above? - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:14 PMThere is always this as well @User https://blog.cloudflare.com/partnership-announcement-db/ - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:14 PMI guess atm they're not looking at a full DB product so they've partnered - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:15 PMwhich I saw - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:15 PMbut that just introduces more confusion about what the actual purpose of durable objects are - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:15 PMI was thinking like small bits of user data such as their email and whatnot, so that it would be close to the user and thus, have lower latency - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:16 PMit seems more like a lightweight KV store put right next to the user for the lowest latency at the cost of needing to be small, light and simple - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:17 PMIt's cheaper than KV as well as can be larger iirc - j
Josh
06/16/2021, 11:17 PMSo it has it's benefits - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:17 PM"can be larger" - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:17 PMhowso - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:17 PMeach value cannot be larger than 3kb - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:18 PMoh - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:18 PMsorry 32kb - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:18 PM - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:18 PMidk why thats not showing as an image - g
Greylock
06/16/2021, 11:18 PM