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# luceem
micha
07/02/2024, 1:57 PM@dswitzer we saw the exact same problem with a client of us, in that case the the server “pool.ntp.org” was enabled and it seem that that server did report an invalid time yesterday, what Lucee did interpret as 0 what is equal to 1900/1/1.
If you have enabled the timeserver best disable it, that feature is not very useful anymore with todays server. we may will remove that from future versions of Lucee.
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dswitzer
07/02/2024, 1:58 PMThanks. We just now saw the issue again.
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micha
07/02/2024, 1:59 PMdo you run commandbox?
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dswitzer
07/02/2024, 1:59 PMNo, running via Tomcat
dswitzer
07/02/2024, 1:59 PMWhere is this setting?
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micha
07/02/2024, 1:59 PMthis shows you if the setting is enabled
micha
07/02/2024, 1:59 PM<cfscript>
pc=getPageContext();
dump(“getTimeServerOffset: “&pc.getConfig().getTimeServerOffset());
dump(“getUseTimeServer: “&pc.getConfig().getUseTimeServer());
dump(“getTimeServer: “&pc.getConfig().getTimeServer());
</cfscript>
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dswitzer
07/02/2024, 1:59 PMFound it Regional > Settings
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micha
07/02/2024, 1:59 PMin the Lucee admin
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dswitzer
07/02/2024, 2:00 PMI bet that's it
dswitzer
07/02/2024, 2:00 PMYou're a life saver!
dswitzer
07/02/2024, 2:00 PMThat's caused me all sorts of issues in the past 24 hours!
dswitzer
07/02/2024, 2:01 PMJust to confirm, if I uncheck the "User time server" option, that's enough to prevent it from happening, right?
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micha
07/02/2024, 2:03 PMyes i hope so, let me know if it does the trick
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dswitzer
07/02/2024, 2:03 PMThanks. Should I clear the "pool.ntp.org" just to be safe?
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micha
07/02/2024, 2:05 PMsure, no need for that
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dswitzer
07/02/2024, 2:06 PMIt doesn't appear you can clear it. When I blank the value out, it returns the default value
dswitzer
07/02/2024, 2:07 PMGiven that all the OS time stamps never saw an issue and it was just now() within Lucee returning the wrong dates, I'm really confident that this was the root cause
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dswitzer
07/02/2024, 2:15 PM@micha
Do you by chance now how frequently Lucee was checking the NTP server?
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micha
07/02/2024, 2:25 PMi think it does it every hour
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Matt Dyer
07/02/2024, 2:37 PMI had the same issue. I just changed the setting on our servers, so hopefully that takes care of it.
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micha
07/02/2024, 4:22 PM@Matt Dyer let me know if it did the trick
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seancorfield
07/02/2024, 4:42 PM
Just as a cautionary tale: we use managed (virtual) servers in a big datacenter. They are configured to use time servers in the datacenter. One of the datacenter's time servers failed and it caused just two of our servers to drift, far enough to cause token invalidations between servers, lost sessions etc. We reconfigured all of our servers to use the same set of public time servers to fix the problem. The datacenter folks did fix the errant time server but it took 'em a week of back and forth before they believed us and isolated the problem...
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