Has there been any recent word on when 2023 will be out?

Mark said this a couple weeks ago:

Right now I see no reason whatsoever for the time to slip. Our target is still by end of H1 (remember our year starts Dec 1). If there's a slip, y'all will be the 2nd to know.

So I think that means they expect to release it by June 1.

Sitting here on my hands lol. I know I keep saying "soon" but... SOOOOOOOON. Like, it is super close. Still seeing no reasons for slip, the team is knocking out final stuff, cleaning things up, putting together docs, all that.

Same price, $2495 with no light version? Or even a free renewable yearly license for open source projects?

Of course, it's the same price, it's a "cash cow" at the governmental and Fortune 1000 enterprise markets, whereas the small and medium business side is slowly being consumed more and more by Open Source CFML (LUCEE). Adobe IMHO is stuck in 1990 meanwhile even Microsoft has proven that they can away everything to the masses and then reel everyone in with corporate licensing works.

Our market segmentation is currently not something I am happy with. I lose a lot of sleep every week working on it. Probably more than is healthy, honestly. But I'm making headway. That's all I'll say for now. Just know, this is not a static situation. I share maybe 1% of the things going on behind the scenes. Right now that 99% is like an ant farm that someone just shook.

@Evil Ware What fortune 1000 companies use Coldfusion? What do you mean by "corporate licensing works"?

I think it was missing some verbs and he meant "Microsoft has proven that giving away everything to the masses and then reeling everyone in with corporate licensing works." ie, it works to give things away to people, but sell them to companies.

I wish there was a way to see the companies using ColdFusion.

Just to name a few, Boeing, Rexel, Toyota, Ford, Mercedes, Honda, Nvidia... As for corporate licensing works - Microsoft sometimes within a year of Sam Nadella taking over, gave away their flagship IDE, Microsoft Visual Studio for Free. This has had a huge impact on the educational sector as suddenly teachers and students as well as open source and small shops had access to a professional, highly developed IDE. Fast forward a few years later and all the textbooks started using Microsoft Visual Studio for the course work. Fast forward a decade later, and Now Microsoft is the dominant Cloud platform and very few even bother to use anything else. New programmers out of school never have heard of alternative compilers, or even text-based debugging and editing. Microsoft has created a marketing culture that feeds upon itself.

You mean Visual Studio 2021 Community Edition?

I think "Microsoft is the dominant cloud platform" might get some push-back. AWS has something like 12x the server capacity of Azure & GCP. That said, Azure is catching up quickly, so we'll see. I am not sure what Azure has to do with MS giving away Code. You can use any tech in Azure.

What, SQL is free till you hit 10 GB, that's HUUUUGE....lol... By Revenue, yes AWS is the largest, but if you start to break down data centers, regional options, and processing, they quickly start to not look so great. AWS's biggest client is Apple, which if that is removed AWS shrinks to third place behind Google. AWS over the last year has been losing customers to Google Cloud and others, Everything the US government has in the cloud is either the DoD's own cloud or its Azure-G, which is its own separate special Azure platform. For hardware and data centers, Microsoft is the largest in terms of coverage. Google while the third largest, has been expanding and quietly undercutting everyone with its cloud platform. It is not as globally expansive as Azure, but it has impressive response times and its pricing is far more competitive and straightforward than AWS. If we go by the revenue it's AWS, Azure, and Google, If we go by New Hardware, Google, Azure, AWS. If we go by regional options, Azure, Google, and AWS. Really, comes down to what you want to do, what is your budget to do it, and how bad of a migraine you want to develop trying to explain the very first itemized bill to a CFO. Though I work with all the above platforms, I use something not even listed as I dislike them all for my own reasons, namely I have to work with them 🙂

@Evil Ware "SQL is free till you hit 10GB". Where is this plan?

I think he’s talking about the express product

@Mark Takata (Adobe) is correct. MS SQL Express is free for use up to 10 GB.