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# troubleshooting
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    Elon

    10/02/2020, 7:43 PM
    Thanks!
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    Neha Pawar

    10/02/2020, 7:43 PM
    in case you need references: https://docs.pinot.apache.org/operators/operating-pinot/rebalance/rebalance-servers
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    Elon

    10/02/2020, 7:51 PM
    Do I just delete the tag or do I edit it? Here is the contents:
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    get /pinot/CONFIGS/PARTICIPANT/Server_pinot-server-5.pinot-server-headless.pinot.svc.cluster.local_8098
    {
      "id" : "Server_pinot-server-5.pinot-server-headless.pinot.svc.cluster.local_8098",
      "simpleFields" : {
        "HELIX_ENABLED" : "true",
        "HELIX_ENABLED_TIMESTAMP" : "1596492023697",
        "HELIX_HOST" : "pinot-server-5.pinot-server-headless.pinot.svc.cluster.local",
        "HELIX_PORT" : "8098",
        "adminPort" : "8097",
        "shutdownInProgress" : "false"
      },
      "mapFields" : { },
      "listFields" : {
        "TAG_LIST" : [ "DefaultTenant_OFFLINE", "DefaultTenant_REALTIME" ]
      }
    }
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 7:42 PM
    Is there a recommendation on how wide a table can be? i.e. we have a ~110 column table. Would it be better to split it vertically into smaller sized tables?
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    Mayank

    10/08/2020, 7:46 PM
    If the individual queries are not spanning a lot of columns, it should be fine I think. However, with large dimensionality, you won’t get much pre aggregation (if you care about latency).
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    Mayank

    10/08/2020, 7:46 PM
    If you spilt, you might be able to normalize better, but will need a join
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 7:49 PM
    110 is fine, you can use star tree for important columns
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 7:55 PM
    I think we may have gone a little too overboard with the indexing: 30 dimensions in the dimension split order and ~280 function column pairs. Should we reduce that?
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 7:57 PM
    wow, thats definitely pushing it a bit
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 7:57 PM
    is it one star tree or multiple trees
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 7:58 PM
    Just one
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 7:59 PM
    How many columns would you recommend for the dimension split order?
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 8:00 PM
    lets start with the issue you are seeing
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 8:01 PM
    is there any issue with this configuration?
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 8:10 PM
    Not seeing errors, right now it just looks like the offline segment we are generating is ~35gb with all the indexes.
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 8:10 PM
    And it fails to upload
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 8:10 PM
    Segments should be ~200mb, right?
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 8:12 PM
    got it, yes
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 8:12 PM
    whats the startree threshold
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 8:18 PM
    maxleaf threshold? It's the default
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    Elon

    10/08/2020, 8:45 PM
    10k
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 9:24 PM
    Ok
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    Kishore G

    10/08/2020, 9:24 PM
    How many rows in segment - Raw size?
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    Elon

    10/09/2020, 1:59 AM
    221k - funny, I removed the star tree indexes and the segment directory is only 73mb.
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    Mayank

    10/09/2020, 2:04 AM
    Interesting. How’s the latency without star tree?
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    Kishore G

    10/09/2020, 2:16 AM
    You are not getting much benefit from star tree for such small segments
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    Mayank

    10/15/2020, 7:38 PM
    https://apache-pinot.slack.com/archives/CDRCA57FC/p1602789631157700
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    Mayank

    10/15/2020, 7:38 PM
    @Cesar How many CPU cores?
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    Mayank

    10/15/2020, 7:39 PM
    Also, could you provide a bit more context on what is the goal here?
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    Cesar

    10/15/2020, 7:39 PM
    16 Cores. 16GB RAM.
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