The public URL stuff isn't

Only because there's no network call involved

Anything that does have a network call usually requires an await at the start, but anything that is local (aka just appending strings on) doesn't

Assuming you're using the Node.js library 😄

I use py

Using on mobile is very bad, cant zoom out, cant close left tab, I want to be able to use while outside with the smartphone only please

Quick question, any timeframe on when 2FA will be implemented for supabase, i.e.. the supabase.com dashboard?

There are no quick and stupid questions. Best patterns and practices are always subjective so it’s a nuanced topic to discuss which then leads us back to #1006358244786196510 the weird thing about web development is that all patterns and practices are heavily covered if you do a Google search. Asking a question about these always lead to someone else doing that Google search for you. I’m still finding it weird the reasons people are needing a free form channel while #1006358244786196510 is clearly working for others.

Can you clarify what you are talking about here please? Are you talking about Discord? your own mobile app? The Supabase dashboard? or just mobile web in general?

ive found with nextjs or react you can google one problem and find at least 3 different approaches to it on the first page. sometimes i would need to bounce those ideas off of a coworker (that i don't have) to get to the solution that is actually the right one. when i ask something i always googled it before, and i couldn't really find the right solution of sometimes contradicting information you get from google.

But this would be the same on here as myself and Gary for example have different experiences and different ways of doing things. You would have to either combine both or come up with your own way based on the information we give.

@silentworks sometimes just talking about it and sharing experience can help. also, ideas coming from mods or team members of the application may reveal better information than a more broader google search can offer.

I think the instant feedback loop that folks crave on discord has really put new developers at an disadvantage when it comes to learning. Forums really felt like more knowledge was gained and a lot more was learned as you would have to experiment while waiting on someone to answer a question you may have.

this i a company and help discord, nothing social, i get it. i have a weird position right now in my company where i work solo on projects and i really don't like it. maybe i am just frustrated with those things.

i like oldschool forums more too, things get lost in discord, but its not that bad, i spend my oldschool days on IRC too, and it was fun.

But this is assuming we know best or even the answer. As a team member I can tell you that Gary knows more than me about the real-time parts of Supabase than I do because he has had more experience using it. Same for Prisma, NanoBits knows more about it than I do. So team members don’t always know the answers because we don’t work with every use case.

Yeah I know what this is like, I worked in a few companies like this in the past.

there is no senior to ask when i am stuck, there is always just learning stuff on my own without the chance to ask someone. and i spend the last 2 years doing devops stuff (which is ultimatly my career goal) but opportunities changed and now back to webdev.

Yeah and web dev has so many moving parts now and so many new terms being used for old and existing terms. Web dev is both exciting and confusing at times.

i like nextjs, vite and sveltekit and all the newer frameworks and the newer concepts (at least for JS, and the browser "dom" if you know what i mean^^), like you said, a bit like reinventing php frameworks.

Yeah I like the idea of not having to select a dom node with jQuery in order to add some data or having to read the text content in the dom node with query selectors.

I've found chat GPT to be invaluable in these situations

weird argument i was having with a coworker, would/do you still use jQuery when working with something like php?

sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't for me... it's not 100 % too, but thanks for reminding me to use it more often 🙂

I just use the browsers native querySelector or just push a Svelte component in there whenever possible.

agreed, it's like googling really, learning how to prompt correctly is very valuable imo

It works until it doesn’t work. It’s the worst at SQL questions. I also dislike the shortcut it provides to the user while leaving the user with the lack of understanding the solution. I’ve seen so many questions on here about why their code isn’t working just to find out it was generated by ChatGPT and the user doesn’t understand how it works.

my coworkers uses full, not scoped, jquery in nearly everything he does.

In recent years I haven’t found any need for it unless you are still supporting IE6 at which point I would have questions if you aren’t working in the financial industry.

wait, jquery still supports ie6?