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Any reason for running WSUS on non-persistent desktops? That sounds a bit counter productive?
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well maybe thats a better way to approach this. so with our non persistent/app layering setup we obviously only want updates to be deployed to the base image right (or OS layer in our case). I have local policies in the image set to disable automatic updates) and disabled the windows update service but windows 10 keeps finding ways to turn it back on so our first thought was ok lets throw all the non persistent desktops in a WSUS group that has no approved updates so even if it TRIES to look it wont get anything and we're good. but like i said it seems to ignore that and look out to the internet too. is there something we're missing for really ensuring these mcs desktops dont do that? (we use user layer too so really dont want those updates pulling down )
in windows 7 i'd just do the update in my os layer, and then disable/stop windows update service and we were good. doesnt work so well w/ 10 unfortunately but i'm open to any suggestions here
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Check the "Windows Update Medic Service", I have it disabled, it likes to re-enable the windows update service. Once I disabled that my machines stopped updating.
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alright so it looks like that set to manual startup type (currently stopped). so do you set the windows update service to disabled in your image (even though it will try and turn it back on ) and also that update media service to disabled and thats all you did?
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That's what finally fixed it for me, disabling the medic service.
I also disable the windows update service as well.
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damn dude if that fixes it you are my hero! haha
so one last question.....we are told that we need to get the Microsoft Whiteboard app available to users. as far as i can see the only way to get that is for users to install it manually from the windows store (no msi ). i THINK the windows update service has to be on in order to use the store, right? maybe an issue w/ this?
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Possibly, we don't use the MS store, so I'm not sure what effect it has on that.
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i'll have to test a bit here but thank you for chiming in! if that fixes my update issue i'll be thrilled! friggin microsoft and that whiteboard app limitations.....promote it as a huge Teams addition but dont let admins centrally push it out
so if i try and disable that media service i'm getting access denied
damn so it looks like that medic service is just a watchdog service for the windows update service so JUST disabling that (if i could somehow) wont help w/ windows updates unless i also disabled windows updates (which appears to break the windows store. damn
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That's right, I had to do it via registry. I'll find the key.
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i think i just found that one too here but thank you! so you disabled both services and for you they have stayed stopped/disabled on non persistent desktops? i guess that would solve one of my problems but introduces the next w/ the damn Store
b
Yeah, no more unwanted updates.
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well damn isnt this some irony.....been trying to get update service to stay disabled/block updates on these machines for months and may have the solution and one blasted store app that i'm told is "essential" means i can't even implement it
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thank you anyways
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Can you get the MSI for this app from the systems folder and deploy it that way?
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well i know this app is ONLY available via the Store app so would this be possible? do store app save a msi after install??
Alright so i was able to find a round about way to capture the .Appx offline install of the Whiteboard app and now we can install that w/ just that and don't need the Windows Store thankfully (i like this method better anyways). So as for the Windows Update Service I have the Medic service disabled per your help but the blasted Windows Update Service keeps changing itself from Disabled to "manual (triggered)" .