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that was a short "heads up" window...
b
Wow - forcing people to use Citrix Virtual Apps and Desktops service......
j
„ This delivers the best experience for our customers and the most value for their user community“ 👻
b
lol!!
d
... and most revenue for us 🤷‍♂️
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l
Not happy about this....
k
Was only a matter of time; feature parity was already there between CVAD on-premises and CVAD Service. I'm just curious how this will play out, I can't imagine the big companies all moving to Citrix Cloud, or at least it will take time. Microsoft tried the same with Exchange/SharePoint Online, starting in 2011, and almost 9 years later, they're still stuck with the on-premises versions. That said, now is perhaps a different time in terms of adoption of the Cloud.
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Personally, I'm not 100% sure of Citrix's ability to "cloud" just based on my limited use of EM and ShareFile services
So our preference is to keep things on prem
I guess what happens after 1912 LTS is the question
j
On prem/private cloud will still be supported
Only change is you can’t use on prem version in public clouds.
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l
You can run your workload on prem and have your control plain in the cloud.... Thats supported.
k
@Jarian Gibson: but this might not become an option anymore for some customers, when the on-premises CVAD lacks features that are available in the CVAD Service one.
j
@Neal Dolson I wouldn’t say keeping things on premises is our preference. But I have a least two customers who are playing with the thought to put VDAs to Azure/AWS for DR and faster scale up. 90% of the workload still will be in the own datacenter. This scenario will only be possible when choosing Citrix Cloud.. And if you want to have CCU licensing you need to pay a lot of money because it’s only available with Premium.
k
@Leee Jeffries: do you feel like Citrix Cloud as the control plane is enterprise ready?
j
CVAD service will remain on prem and cloud workloads
l
I dont like Studio being in browser as a published app - mmc snappin if thats what you mean. There are enterprises using it so it is, maybe not for all enterprise.
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I just cant wrap my head around the decision of support the control plane in the cloud but not workloads...
k
well, they're changing that, so that's good - but you can also read a lot of reports of instability on the Citrix Community forums
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The stability issues are mostly the consoles in my opinion @James Rankin pipe up, I need cheering up.
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j
Using the Cloud Studio reminds me of using the Dell OpenManage console from about 2005
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b
Now that’s some cheering up
m
Studio and WEM in the cloud are awful, and support is even worse when something needs to be fixed on the back end. They need to sort it out if they want people to treat it as a legitimate alternative to on prem or self managed cloud control plane. I’d only recommend it for small business that can afford the downtime. Enterprise customers typically don’t want to go half the day without access to the control plane.
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I've been on a long term CC project for the last 2.5 years with a large well know organisation. I've certainly seen Citrix Cloud come from a "wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy" to a "nearly there" solution. There are plenty of customers who are still on-prem friendly with a idea to possibly dip their toes in cloud workloads. Also for seasonal orgs and universities the ability to use the cloud when demand increases has always been a good selling point. If they are going to force practically everybody down the Citrix Cloud route, that is fine but they will need respond like a service provider when issues/support tickets occur, which seems to happen way more in cloud than onprem even if it is Azures fault. Also they'll need to sort out costing to bring it inline with the onprem version. Progress is unavoidable and to be encouraged but they are doing this in the same style of when they ended 6.5 and gave us all XA/XD7 without feature parity and maybe now during the current world climate is not the best PR decision to release this bit of news when other org's are offering services for free to assist.
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