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# citrix-vads
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Kasper Johansen
04/21/2022, 11:46 AMDid you delete the VDA in question in Studio or jus AD?
Kasper Johansen
04/21/2022, 11:47 AMI think I have seen something similar where I ended up deleting the VDA in both Studio, AD and PVS and then created a new AD object via PVS and the imported the new VDA in Studio
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Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 11:48 AMI deleted it in AD directly
Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 11:48 AMI can try deleting it through the PVS console to see if that changes the behavior.
Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 11:52 AMIt's just weird because I have done this before with success. Looking at Get-BrokerMachine, the last connection to this VDA was... January. oof.
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Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 12:15 PMI've had this when using PVS, yes do a proper clean-up at all levels, AD, target in PVS console, and recreate it using the Wizard. I've also noticed that a couple of reboots was needed then to see the blank/SID name to be replaced by the actual machine name after that.
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Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 12:16 PMSeems I had not had enough coffee, and neglected to actually remove it from the Machine Catalog. Did that, and all is well again.
Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 12:16 PMI blame Citrix for naming this option "Delete" instead of "Remove from Machine Catalog".
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Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 12:17 PMbecause the Delete wizard also has an option to delete the machine from the HV and in AD.
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Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 12:18 PMSounds like adding a "Remove from Machine Catalog" option would solve my issue, then.
Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 12:19 PMI haven't deleted a device in years, so I honestly would not have guessed what the Delete option looked like.
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Ray Davis
04/21/2022, 1:09 PMWhen I remove a device that is used in PVS. I do this.
1. Remove from DG and MC
2. Remove from AD
3. Remove from PVS Console
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Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 1:09 PMI skipped step 1b 😄
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Ray Davis
04/21/2022, 1:10 PMBut if you asked me how to do it with MCS, I would be like ummmmm (in the background doing a goodle search ) lmao
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Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 1:11 PMwith MCS just do it from the MC, it will remove the machine from everywhere.
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Ray Davis
04/21/2022, 1:11 PMI seem to remember that, but it's been a long time. Good to know, Thanks Olivier.
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Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 1:11 PMYeah, I have never touched MCS outside of Citrix training.
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Kasper Johansen
04/21/2022, 1:49 PMPVS FTW :D
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Josh Jordan
04/21/2022, 7:28 PMWe have had issues with MCS not removing the account from the identity pool, so we go to delete the device from MC and it won't allow it, there is a PoSH command to unlock that identity. But PVS is more straightforward for sure.
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Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 7:29 PMI don't believe so.
Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 7:32 PMEvery time we would run the PVS wizard it was pretty much an experience with "ok, wait guys, here it is, be very attentive" and taking like 1 minute between each step. "So far we are fine.... so far we are fine..."
Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 7:33 PMI really don't regret that in the MCS environment
Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 7:34 PMMost ridiculous thing ever, bringing PVS into Azure.
Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 7:34 PMon a SDN? Come on...
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Nick Panaccio
04/21/2022, 8:06 PMIf we go to Citrix Cloud/Azure, I would want PVS... 🙂
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Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 9:03 PMThis is called "Windows File Explorer Addiction"
Osiris Amanpour
04/21/2022, 9:04 PMPVS is an amazing product... but people just get addicted to it, and don't want to give up on it when it's not the use case.
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Ray Davis
04/22/2022, 3:39 PMI love PVS and I can do so much with the vDisk. MCS I used in 7.6 about 6-7 years ago. It was ok, but I have way more control with PVS.
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