alaunay, zhenech: On beer vs wine: There are certain things I would not consume if I were not born German: • Stollen: Sweet Christmas Bread. If you have a bread, but make it 25% fat and store it chilled, it can last up to 5 months. Ingenious invention before the fridge! • Sauerkraut. Cabbage can be stored on the field even if frozen. Even longer if fermented by lactic acid. Never was tasty, bit still an ingenious invention before the fridge! There are things I do not consume because I was born German: • Ramstein. • Wine. Why would you consume such a sour fruit? Safe it for the pigs! It's fine if you like wine. But where I come from, grapes are sour and disgusting. At least that used to be the case before climate change....