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  • w
    the client still has alot of retail bloat in it
  • w
    Well yeah
  • w
    It's the 12.1.7 client
  • w
    Closest to unified client we'll get 😄
  • b
    but thats not my point, i was saying that its just more crappy and grindy classic gameplay
  • w
    Tf did you expect
  • w
    Like
  • w
    Genuinely 😂
  • w
    It's Classic but also not Classic 😄
  • b
    personally? nothing, i expected exactly what we got
  • b
    but obviously i was in the minority looking at the massive hype around it
  • s
    well. its exactly what we wanted as in classic+ while still keeping classic and having another timeline and 30 years of expansions and unknown lore to explore 😄
  • m
    I don’t have much fond memories of classic despite playing around launch. I remember tedious, auto attack based paladin gameplay, lack of quests in many areas, difficulty getting into dungeon groups (most groups were people trying to go after the same quest mob and disbanded immediately after) it was probably just a weird timing because I was actively in DAoC at the time and was doing RvR and PvE raids there and didn’t feel strongly about WoW’s lore compared to DAoC’s lore.
  • a
    I'm really curious how the horizontal scaling is going to work out... It has some inherent issues IMO
  • g
    It won't work out because the game's only dopamine source is numbers.
  • g
    It worked in GW2 because they have never increased numbers since launch and built the entire game around exploration and activities rather than dungeon and raids
  • s
    @salmon-hospital-77303 can i dm u ?
  • s
    no. well u can try but i would ignore it
  • s
    so... no matter
  • s
    i would just ask if i did warden well
  • w
  • w
    As if you'd get help with that
  • s
    i can share it to u, if u will acept dm
  • a
    there's a reason all warden code was removed
  • b
    yes, the reason was that it was old, not maintained and not working
  • b
    the reason you are thinking about is for not adding a new modern compatible one
  • a
    so all good reasons not to be anywhere
  • d
    Still daily groups of full squad with 50 people doing events from the 1st xpack from a decade ago
  • g
    I still enjoy the occasional silver wastes run
  • d
    I do that when I do Gen 1 leggys