Hi! I hope this is the right place for this questi...
# questions-and-troubleshooting
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Hi! I hope this is the right place for this question! I think I have a bad misunderstanding of how caching works in StarRocks. I am on version 4.0.7 and probably have been mixing up documentation. I am in a shared nothing mode architecture with local NVME disks. Looking at the backend nodes I have configured I see there is a DataCache for memory and disk. You can also configure that data cache disk and data cache mem. However I keep seeing references to page cache and block caches as well. It looks like those concepts were unified under DataCache or am I misunderstanding something? It also says in the DataCache document thats its for remote storage only "Data Cache loads data from remote storage in blocks"... I just want to make sure I take advantage of caching since I have some pretty heavy repeated scans and I would like to ontop of the OS Cache leverage whatever StarRocks offers. I just would like some clarification on what levers to tune correctly...
Hey @Rocky can you help me with this?
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Hello! I'm Rocky, your StarRocks assistant. I'd be happy to help you! Please let me know what you're working on or what specific issue you're encountering. Whether it's a SQL syntax error, a configuration question, or a performance tuning issue, feel free to share the details!
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Since I did this wrong here is the question @Rocky "Hi! I hope this is the right place for this question! I think I have a bad misunderstanding of how caching works in StarRocks. I am on version 4.0.7 and probably have been mixing up documentation. I am in a shared nothing mode architecture with local NVME disks. Looking at the backend nodes I have configured I see there is a DataCache for memory and disk. You can also configure that data cache disk and data cache mem. However I keep seeing references to page cache and block caches as well. It looks like those concepts were unified under DataCache or am I misunderstanding something? It also says in the DataCache document thats its for remote storage only "Data Cache loads data from remote storage in blocks"... I just want to make sure I take advantage of caching since I have some pretty heavy repeated scans and I would like to ontop of the OS Cache leverage whatever StarRocks offers. I just would like some clarification on what levers to tune correctly... "
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Hi! I'm Rocky. It sounds like you've been navigating the transition into StarRocks' newer unified caching architecture. You're right that there has been some consolidation of terminology, especially in the v3.3 to v4.0+ range. Here is the clarification on how these caches work in your Shared-Nothing (local NVMe) setup: 1. The Unified "Data Cache" (v4.0+) In the version you are using, StarRocks has unified several concepts under the Data Cache umbrella. It essentially consists of two tiers: * Page Cache (In-Memory): This caches decompressed data pages and index pages in the BE's RAM. * Block Cache (Disk-based): This caches raw data blocks from remote storage (like S3/HDFS) onto local BE disks. 2. Does this apply to Shared-Nothing? This is where the confusion usually lies. * Block Cache (Disk Tier): You are correct—this is primarily for remote storage (Data Lake or Shared-Data mode). Since your data is already on local NVMe disks in a Shared-Nothing architecture, StarRocks will not cache that local data into the Block Cache. Doing so would be redundant (caching local disk to local disk). * Page Cache (Memory Tier): This is heavily used for local tables in Shared-Nothing mode. It stores decompressed pages in memory so that repeated scans don't have to hit the disk or consume CPU cycles for decompression. 3. The "Levers" for Shared-Nothing Performance Since you have heavy repeated scans on local NVMe, you should focus on these three layers: A. StarRocks Page Cache (The Memory Lever) This is the most important lever for you. It sits above the OS and stores the actual data pages your queries need. *
datacache_mem_size
: This is the unified parameter in v4.0. It sets the maximum memory for the Page Cache. You can set this as a percentage (e.g.,
20%
) or a fixed size (e.g.,
100G
). *
disable_storage_page_cache
: Ensure this is set to
false
(it is by default). B. OS Page Cache Since StarRocks uses standard I/O for reading local data files, the Linux OS will automatically cache "hot" file blocks in the remaining free RAM of your server. * Tip: Don't allocate 100% of your machine's RAM to the StarRocks BE process (
mem_limit
). Leave some room (e.g., 10-20%) for the OS Page Cache to handle the raw file I/O. C. Query Result Cache If your "heavy repeated scans" are identical queries, you can bypass the scan entirely by caching the final result set. *
enable_query_cache
: Set this session variable to
true
. This caches the final output of the query in memory. Summary of what to tune: For your specific setup (v4.0.7, Shared-Nothing, NVMe), ignore the
datacache_disk_size
(Block Cache) as it won't help with local tables. Instead, focus on: 1. Increase
datacache_mem_size
: Give more RAM to the Page Cache to keep more decompressed hot data in memory. 2. Monitor Page Cache Hit Rate: Check your BE metrics (via `curl http://be_host:be_http_port/metrics`) for
starrocks_be_page_cache_hit_count
to see if your cache is actually being utilized. 3. Check
storage_page_cache_limit
: In older versions, this was the primary name; in v4.0, it is managed via the unified Data Cache settings, but keeping an eye on both in your
be.conf
is a good idea. To adjust these dynamically for testing:
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ADMIN SET FRONTEND CONFIG ("datacache_mem_size" = "20%");
-- Or per BE via the backend configuration API
I hope this clears up the "Remote only" vs "Local" confusion! Let me know if you need help finding specific metrics to verify your hit rates. Referencesdata_source/data_cache.mdadministration/management/BE_configuration.mdusing_starrocks/caching/block_cache.md