acceptable-flag-7169905/26/2020, 9:59 AM
dry-waitress-785205/26/2020, 10:33 AM
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 10:49 AM
DHH is saying I should not be able to offer my work to GitLab at lower payHe hasn't said. Neither is that his point.
acceptable-flag-7169905/26/2020, 10:50 AM
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 10:50 AM
take away this offer that was acceptable to the less privileged devsConsider why the offer was acceptable to someone in lower privilege in the first place. It's because they have no idea about alternatives. Not enough good examples exist.
gorgeous-lunch-2558005/26/2020, 10:58 AM
acceptable-flag-7169905/26/2020, 11:01 AM
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 11:01 AM
If GitLab listens to DHH, they will end up making fewer job offers.This is an assumption.
acceptable-flag-7169905/26/2020, 11:03 AM
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 11:03 AM
Just say, "sorry, this isn't good enough for me" and move on.Or, ask them to do better. Today, you get a better salary, and speak about this. Tomorrow 10 others devs get better salaries.
acceptable-flag-7169905/26/2020, 11:05 AM
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 11:06 AM
Unintended consequences of our actions taken with good intentions, end up hurting more.This is strawman.
crooked-ghost-8312805/26/2020, 11:08 AM
Consider why the offer was acceptable to someone in lower privilege in the first place. It’s because they have no idea about alternatives. Not enough good examples exist.@victorious-energy-56764 I’m just tying to understand your point here let’s take an example of upwork Everyone can get to know what other people charge and how much they earn. Still the there are 1000s of cheap proposal posted by people from less privileged countries(Bangladesh, Ukraine, Pakistan) or where the cost of living is less and charging like 5 usd/hr is way more than what they can earn in their countries if they propose higher rates in proposal they will surely not get the job because someone else will always be ready to do it for lesser amount (so, i kinda agree to @acceptable-flag-71699 that making decisions/arguments for others by thinking that we are doing right by them might not be helpful to those very people)
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 11:13 AM
crooked-ghost-8312805/26/2020, 11:14 AM
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 11:16 AM
if they propose higher rates in proposal they will surely not get the job because someone else will always be ready to do it for lesser amountIt's naive to assume this is just because of cost. There are many factors in play. Perception of value, internal biases, racism, casteism, etc. This isn't a cost-only game unfortunately.
acceptable-flag-7169905/26/2020, 11:35 AM
abundant-jackal-5463405/26/2020, 5:27 PM
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 5:31 PM
I have been in the tech industry I haven't heard or seen an instance of casteismYou haven't because you're likely on the good side of the privilege.
How does this even come up, the race is obvious but caste?The race is obvious, because you're on the receiving side of it. In the same way, caste is obvious when you're on the receiving side of it.
abundant-jackal-5463405/26/2020, 5:58 PM
You haven't because you're likely on the good side of the privilege.I think the govt classifies me as BC btw, I don't know if that is supposed to be in the good or bad side of the privilege. But I am not here to say that I didn't experience it, so it doesn't exist. I was just wanted to educate myself.
victorious-energy-5676405/26/2020, 5:59 PM
abundant-jackal-5463405/26/2020, 6:03 PM