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melodic-father-12888

09/16/2021, 4:28 AM
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gray-beach-48055

09/16/2021, 4:37 AM
Don't buy anything - Tax avoided.
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orange-action-12733

09/16/2021, 4:44 AM
and when we ask development they say dont ask that.
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flat-morning-91037

09/16/2021, 4:54 AM
This taxation is basically fixing the missing tax, as not every restaurant charged GST for delivery orders via Zomato/Swiggy and entire purchase would go unaccounted. Of course not every restaurant is doing it but it is fairly common practice too.
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quick-judge-84214

09/16/2021, 4:55 AM
• List of things which are not taxed: coming soon... • List of things which are taxed: everything 😐🥲
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flat-morning-91037

09/16/2021, 4:59 AM
I just downloaded a couple of Invoices from my past orders on Zomato and none of those invoices mention any GST number (be it Zomato’s or the Restaurant itself) or bifurcation of GST in amount breakdown. It just stated “Taxes and Charges”. How was it even allowed to begin with? 🤔
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powerful-planet-56851

09/16/2021, 5:05 AM
Swiggy used to apply GST and show the breakup in terms of CGST, IGST, SGST as well on the app. I worked on this feature in my time there. I don't see it now not sure why. 🥲
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hundreds-photographer-33216

09/16/2021, 5:10 AM
While talking of swiggy, is there a way to extract invoices for all past orders in one go?
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damp-coat-97256

09/16/2021, 5:24 AM
I worked on this feature in my time there. I don’t see it now not sure why.
Dark pattern? Better to have some opaque number than give details I suppose
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powerful-planet-56851

09/16/2021, 5:30 AM
Yeah I guess. Maybe they saw order dropoffs by users seeing all those details. I'm not sure what the rationale to removing the feature was but the reason to add that feature was to comply with the govt in some way.
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flat-morning-91037

09/16/2021, 5:36 AM
Within app they just show
Taxes
but I had hoped at least the downloaded PDF invoice would be detailed one.
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victorious-energy-56764

09/16/2021, 5:38 AM
Tax is healthy. Tax collection isn't the problem — the problem is what they do with the collected taxes.
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melodic-jordan-81418

09/16/2021, 5:56 AM
^ I wouldn’t mind paying high taxes if I’m getting proper healthcare, education, public transport, public infrastructure, etc. Right now, none of these services justify the tax
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flat-morning-91037

09/16/2021, 5:58 AM
Well, only 1.5cr people pay taxes in a country of 130cr, we can’t have such unreal expectations. 😂
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melodic-jordan-81418

09/16/2021, 6:14 AM
yes, I understand that spending thousands of crores to put a particular person’s new bearded portraits on every billboard, newspaper, tv channel and everywhere else I look is an absolute priority. Maybe if more people pay taxes we’ll have some change spared for the essential services
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flat-morning-91037

09/16/2021, 6:17 AM
I can get into argument against that with actual statistics but it’ll get political so I’d avoid that. 🙂
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melodic-jordan-81418

09/16/2021, 6:20 AM
always up for a healthy debate, but yeah let’s not make this space political. Maybe we can discuss this sometime in the DMs
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victorious-energy-56764

09/16/2021, 6:22 AM
Well, only 1.5cr people pay taxes in a country of 130cr
This is so utterly and completely wrong.
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Only 1.5cr people pay "_*income tax*_". There are other kinds of taxes and every person who makes purchases etc pays the tax. So rid yourself of the notion that only 1.5cr people pay tax and as someone who is paying tax you are bearing the burden for the rest of the population. You're not.
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flat-morning-91037

09/16/2021, 6:24 AM
Of course I meant direct taxes, because that’s the group of people who expect more from the govt. Not a sick burn but just a more relatable example, would someone choose to be a regular, individual tax payer instead of opting for “44ADA”?
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victorious-energy-56764

09/16/2021, 6:30 AM
the group of people who expect more from the govt.
No, not really. Far from truth, in fact. A lot of the semi-urban and rural people are directly dependent on Government for welfare. They're way more dependent and they expect the government to take care of it.
would someone choose to be a regular, individual tax payer instead of opting for “44ADA”?
Nobody would pay more tax if a legal, valid option to pay less tax is available. Not even in countries like Singapore, Denmark, Germany. So this doesn't give us any signal.
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flat-morning-91037

09/16/2021, 6:31 AM
Yup, and that’s a significantly larger number to be fed by people who actually pay direct and indirect taxes alike. And we’re talking about population which was censused back in 2011.
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victorious-energy-56764

09/16/2021, 6:34 AM
Anyway, the larger point is tax is immaterial right now, unless we get systemic fixes, which we're not.
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flat-morning-91037

09/16/2021, 6:34 AM
The thing is, there are way, way too many people who evade tax in every way imaginable (reporting fraction of actual revenue, not including GST in their bills, doing transactions in cash, and etc.). While evasion is not common in larger cities with majority of its demography a service class (eg; Pune, Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, etc.), in smaller cities it is far too common for people to evade.
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orange-action-12733

09/16/2021, 10:46 AM
foolish leaders should concentrate increasing tax payers not tax. Its like we paying for someones benefits we dont get anything for the taxes we paid pathetic roads ,govt schools , poor health care . Aadhar was brought up comparing to unique identifiers in other countries still failed all projects are big failures by modishah.
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hundreds-photographer-33216

09/16/2021, 11:22 AM
I don't think the leaders are foolish, they are pretty smart at making a fool out of common man. Look at this neat Section: https://cleartax.in/s/section-80ggb I have heard people get 100% exemption and get the 80% of donated money back in cash. Win-win for political party and the company.