Folks, what are your thoughts on the Moonlighting ...
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Folks, what are your thoughts on the Moonlighting debate that has been happening the past few days? Context: This is what started the whole kerfluffle - https://twitter.com/RishadPremji/status/1560894886026440704?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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The kind of salaries these so-called "Indian tech giants" offer, no wonder this is happening. Heck, these companies don't even support their employees for basic asks like asking for a letter of leave approval if employee is going on a international holiday (at personal expense) and is applying for Visa.
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Wipro and Infy have attrition rates of upto 25 - 30% That should say enough about what people feel about working with them. And they have mindsets of old Indian companies - stuck 30 years in the past.
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I'm not generalising but that AIB video of Honest Placements around mass recruiters is not too far from reality. My college (from where I completed masters) would typically have placements start in late June with first round of companies being creamy ones (Flipkart, Amazon, Morgan Stanley, Microsoft, Google, you name it) and by end of September, majority of talented lads would have a job, and then these mass recruiters would come, and have all the absurd cut-off criteria (60% minimum marks across academics in the past), typical paper based entrance with LR, Algebra and other stuff, and then too would end up hiring 30+ students (bottom of barrel). So I guess these practices are match made in heaven.
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I'm ambivalent about this phenomena. I believe
A's hire A's and B's hire C's
is very common in most large companies+ throughout the world. But w/o getting into the discussion of whether the wages paid are fair or not, I believe the people doing this for a long term (vs. a few months to get their startup idea off the ground) are on a shaky moral and legal ground. They're knowingly breaking their word on employment contracts they've signed - they could do this legally if they were a contractor. So they don't want to take on the risk of being a contractor, but still pretend to be one. + And it doesn't apply everywhere and A, B, C keeps changing for a person over time.
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I think it also depends on type of contract that they’re signing, some employers are fine with their employees working on any other project/job as long as; a) it doesn’t impact their productivity at their job b) they’re not working in competing product violating NDAs b) Not using company equipment to do it (in most cases).
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@flat-morning-91037 I would be ~very surprised~shocked if such egalitarian contracts are offered by most Indian services companies 🙂 I have seen them being offered abroad because there are laws that prevent such restrictions in contracts.
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Of course in India, only labour laws are preventing these companies from legally hiring employees as slaves. 😂