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That's channel is normally hosted by Puppet folks and schedule for discussions is posted in the topic of the channel
#C7GP57T50 probably has a better audience for this discussion. As a side note, I do use encore/patching for very small environments, but for enterprise environment specialized products are more suitable - Satellite/Foreman, for example
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Canonical doesn't have a patching solution ?
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Ahh, I thought I was in the puppet channel, had accidentally clicked the wrong one.
Satellite is pretty nice, foreman while nice has been pretty touchy in my experience though.
Foreman had a tendency to break in some spectacular manner ~80% of the time I updated it (AlmaLinux)
Yum update on my foreman servers would also cause chaos
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Well, bolt will not create a package snapshot for you, so you are guaranteed to have "snowflakes", unless your repositories are frozen somehow
some do LVM snapshots
if that's acceptable then patching is a good module
you can run commands pre/post, do VM snapshots, disable Solarwinds, lots of stuff