It smells like an out to me. Hand off the tools in good faith. Shift focus / mission elsewhere. I suspect we’ll probably receive notifications to a blog talking about deprecation and new direction in the coming months.

I'm sorry, but that sounds like a ridiculous line of thinking to me...

How so ? Spontaneous push for new development. All signaling a do it yourself approach ? Seems to follow the pattern of companies that shift directions if you ask me. Anyhow I hope my line of thinking really is false I actually think the platform has potential

What's the spontaneous push for new development? Open sourcing the platform was already discussed a couple of months ago.

You’ll have to read the post I made a few weeks ago about my opinions on the way they went about it. That’ll sum up why I feel that it was spontaneous. The level of broken and confusion for @next makes it hard not to believe there is a clear direction

How many paid projects do you have on the Graphcool platform at the moment?

0 and at this rate will probably remain that way

Just as I thought. So you don't have any actual paid projects on the platform, but you're stirring up things, scaring people away for no objective reason.

Have you read my post or speculating ? In my post I stated my ultimate beliefs that this platform is promising. My fear is that it’s moving in an unknown direction without a clear path. If a single individual drives traffic away from a platform then the question remains in the platform not the individual. If Graphcool can’t accept critical input from its users then what’s the point in this thread ?

First of all, I'm not speaking on behalf of Graphcool. And yes, I have read your post, and responded to it as well if you remember. And I didn't agree with you then, and I still don't agree with you now.

I suppose this is where we split on opinions. Yet you follow my threads and attempt to change my mind. If you would advise a senior level of management to invest in using graphcool at its current state then we have nothing further to discuss. With that said as I’ve stated many times already. I truly believe graphcool can be a promising platform and with help from the community and with more direct milestones to help guide the community in development it can achieve that mission. However in order to accomplish that step the points I’ve mentioned along with other points must be addressed first.

It's not my position to say that you can't , or shouldn't express your concerns. That's not what this is about. Your points around the beta version were, for the most part, valid. Insinuating that Graphcool opensourced so 'we should figure it out on our own' while they move on to something else however, is damaging. Did you actually talk to some of the people at Graphcool directly? Never mind, I already know the answer to that question, otherwise you wouldn't be making these statements in the first place.

Pretty sure I expressed that's what it seemed like to me, as well as expressed above "I Hope I'm Wrong". I'm not sure how long you've worked with open source platforms, or in fact if you've ever actually contributed to one. I have done both and contribute quite frequently to a lot of them. I have seen some fail, I've seen some succeed. I've also watched companies use the tactic i've described above. Time and time again. I "Hope" this is not the case for graphcool. But it sure smells like it to me, seeing as though I've watched this type of direction happen quite frequently. Doesn't mean i'm wrong and certainly doesn't mean i'm right. Again it's just my opinion. With that said, "Geniune interest in using and improving this platform". Hmm, my point to graphcool was that I am more than happy to step in and contribute, and plan on doing so along with 3 other developers on my team. In order for us to do that, we need direction. We need to ensure that the time we invest will be well spent. That we are clear on the direction. The concerns from the users of graphcool are diligently answered with a clear direction. I would not be posting or following graphcool if I had 0 interest in it's success.

https://github.com/graphcool/templates/commits?author=kbrandwijk https://github.com/kbrandwijk/graphcool-cli/commits/feature-import?author=kbrandwijk I have 600+ contributions across the Graphcool repos in the past 6 months. I have also been part of the closed betas for both Resolver Functions and the Framework Preview, and have about 200 hours of actual conversations with the Graphcool team members, so I think your impression is a bit off. But who am I to argue over first impressions? You come across as someone who might just as well work for Scaphold, Backendless, or any of their other competitors. So let's hope we're both wrong, and let's hope we'll be working together on taking this platform to the next level once you are reassured about the direction it's going. I would advise you to approach Nilan or Johannes directly about any doubts you might have.

I stand corrected, I searched for agartha. Thank you for providing that insight. Now I have more confidence that at least I am hashing out valid points with someone who shares a genuine interest in the platform. I assure you I do not work for either of those companies, but I can see your point in regards to first impressions. I also reviewed those platforms, and can say that's what landed me here at graphcool. With that said, the direction of open source is certainly why I am still here. The ability to contribute and get the oil on your hands for the vehicle is what i'm looking for. I'd prefer not to have an opinionated stack with everything backed in for the common user. I will go through the repo and try to understand where things are and where I can pitch in.

thanks for keeping the discourse mostly constructive around here, I guess you resolved all mentioned topics already. I find it difficult to chime in here retroactively, but feel free to open up more discussions in the forum: https://www.graph.cool/forum/. Feel free to ping me also directly via DM.

@rwatts3>Have you used the @next cli on windows ? Web dev is complex enough; I suggest you avoid adding Windows to the mix. A Mac will get you farther, faster.