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just found this, could be interesting alternative ...
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just found this, could be interesting alternative to have UI for data with self-hosted Prisma http://crudl.io/
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Why not use well known and tested tools like Sequel Pro? https://www.sequelpro.com/
d
um, I don't know that, but does it have some sort of GraphQL connector? that's kinda the point, to have UI over the gql endpoint ... at least to me
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Why would it need a connector?
Here's my Prisma RDS MySQL db in Sequel Pro https://cl.ly/1i090a1k2W0T
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so you have exposed MySQL server to public?
l
No
d
i don't know that tool really, I am a frontend guy using GraphQL 🙂
I don't even want to know there is some MySQL in background, that's irrelevant information 🙂
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I've heard it said that GraphQL was written by really smart server guys to make front end guys happy. But there's nothing simple about building the server.
Sequel Pro is a data viewer / manipulator for MySQL. It does exactly the same thing as Prisma Cloud's Data Browser
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except you need to use SQL for complex queries, right?
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What do you mean?
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nevermind, I am probably overthinking this, I just don't want to touch anything that bears the word SQL 🙂
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@Daniel K. yes you need SQL for queires
@lawjolla that's not the point. think of it from a client perspective. you want to give them an admin dashboard to manage their data, you can't show them sequel pro 🙂
you need a dumb-proof admin dashboard, which is why entire businesses are popping around this. E.G: https://www.forestadmin.com/
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right ... so for dumb frontend guy I would be better of with that Crudl thing probably 🙂
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^ just raised like 13M
anyway.. good luck giving your marketing department sequel pro
also with those admin dashboards, you can implement logic, permissions and make sure no one accidentally deletes your DB 😉
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@harrisrobin if you want a true client dashboard, then you need to build one.
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@lawjolla agreed but
time and money
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Then Sequel Pro
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can't give that to a marketing person
try it
you are tech savy, makes sense for oyu
lol
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exactly, for my day job, backend people have their own tools for DB, but still manager wants from them to build UI he can use to access that DB
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ofcourse, if have the luxury to build one from scratch go for it
not everyone wants to do that, hence the plug and play admin dashboards with permissions and some logic and custom views
why so aggressive? 🙂
someone's angry
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Why so sensitive?
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this kind reminds me all those fights with designer guy I am having all the time ... in this case it's backend vs frontend ... it's kinda funny how stubborn you are @lawjolla... you have great tool for you, but not even considering that some other people might not like it at all
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now now 🙂 it's clear that you are in different situations, so let's all calm down!
thanks all of you for sharing your perspective
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@harrisrobin btw, just checked on that Forest thing ... I find it surprising that someone can still make that much money when end of the REST is nigh 🙂
in other words, it does not solve issue at hand either ... to have a generated admin UI for self-hosted Prisma
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thanks, looks good as well
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Thank y’all! My only issue with these systems is that I’m not sure I can restrict data update to follow the biz rules; for instance, what if I need to make sure that even the super admin cannot move a blog post from “draft” to “published” except if it has been translated from German to English first?
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