:wave: (couldn't find an intro channel so posting ...
# general
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πŸ‘‹ (couldn't find an intro channel so posting hello here) - I'm Paula, lead engineer at Zopa Bank (UK), using Kotlin/Kafka and TS on the FE. Looking into Pact to provide contract testing for our microservices as well as our BFFs and excited to chat more!
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Hey hey, Welcome to the party! Always good to have faces from the UK, I am lonely up in Leeds as the rest of my core Pactflow team are over in Aus! I'm new to Kotlin (it's next of my little list of polyglotting for my own advent of code) new to Kafka too, largely, getting across it soon as part of our Pact Plugin roll out. We would love to hear about your journey as your onboard through our docs and repos/examples, and exploring ideas around BFF's and good testing practises. We had a chat from the creator of module federation, at a client that were looking at rolling our micro front-ends in a mix of both restful/monolith and eda based arch https://scriptedalchemy.medium.com/when-should-you-leverage-module-federation-and-how-2998b132c840 And good shout on the intro channel, most shout in here and we have our widest audience, so this is as good as any πŸ™‚ The welcome bot is here https://github.com/pact-foundation/pact-event-bot/blob/1d8000ef2b0b80e292e468fde25fe7e1705a6779/src/slackEvent.ts#L52 It is shockingly bad, looking back at it πŸ˜‚ big fat one line string. but if you wanted to help update the content pulled it out here so it is easy to grok. https://gist.github.com/YOU54F/aebc97ef8eb09ce0d4c6d33a3190a672 to say, hey, why not introduce yourself in general. That content is a little stale. we are at over 4.5k users now, and I wrote that before I joined the Pact/Pactflow team It might be that we aren't using that one any more, and you've got a completely different message πŸ˜…
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Woohoo, πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ ! Yea I'm really hoping we can use Pact with Kafka cuz microservices testing...ouch
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Welcome!
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Welcome! Another UK bod here (I'm in Newcastle). There's also @Wes πŸ˜€
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Woo! I'm in Cambridge
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We definitely need a Pact UK meetup then lol
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If you can make that happen, we’ll definitely find a way to financially sponsor you if needed (e.g. food, drinks, venue). Would love to see this happen
Could do a Tesco vs Sainsburys contract testing talk πŸ˜›
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I am so there for this
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The big supermarket bank smackdown
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I have a session with our principal test engineer next week to go through what running a contract test workflow actually looks like, so I'm really hoping I can finally get some traction here
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We're close to going down the rabbit hole (again) of "just build api tests that you can run anywhere" oh wait that requires 10 JVM microservices, guess we can only run on UAT post-merge Guess we'll just ignore the output of those tests #NotOnMyWatch #HopePactCanHelp
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Not if we can help it! I've heard that story just a few too many times
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I think @Elliott Murray (of at least Pact Python fame) might be in Cambridge too
(I was born in Cambridge, but I live in Australia now, so it’s unlikely I can make a meetup)
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I can confirm he is still in Cambridge! Available for meetups. There was a virtual python one last year on pact I attended actually!
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ooh @Elliott Murray where in Cam?? I'm in Girton
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Mill road/romsey town way
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Girton is very nice
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yea we moved up here a couple years ago to get more space. Mill Rd is fun though! Plus you have Hot Numbers...
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Haha. Yes had brunch there just Saturday!
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I used to live in Histon(!)
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Great to see more UK folks here. A bit lttp to comment on the thread. Interesting @Sam Hogarth that you have a principal test engineer, that role doesn't even exist in Sainsbury's. It's a bit of a free for all on how we test and what we use to test, with little to no technical guidance.
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It's a new role for us too I believe, as we've started to bring test within the engineering fold. Mind you Greg's doing a fantastic job in the role
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nice resurrection πŸ™‚ also stoked to see lots of UK faces - We are keen to get everyone together this year somehow on topic, I moved into a principal test engineer role around 2016, and have seen a trend away from Software engineer in test -> test engineer -> principle test engineer/architect. I quite liked the term quality coach/engineer, which is loose enough to kind of fit the ever fluid role that I think a-lot of us play, and didn't silo under the test banner
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Quality Coach has a nice ring to it. I definitely feel like we'd benefit from someone in a role like that.