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• Using LiveKit Cloud credentials (Build Plan)
• Initially using vad interruption handling
Issue:
With normal vad mode, the agent occasionally got stuck during conversations even after configuring:
resume_false_interruption = 0.8
So we switched to adaptive interruption handling.
However, after testing adaptive mode, we observed:
1. Genuine interruptions are sometimes missed, especially in noisy environments
2. Frequent timeout/fallback errors:
adaptive interruption inference timed out after 0.7s
fallback to VAD
status_code=408
From logs, it seems adaptive inference is happening on:
agent-gateway.livekit.cloud
So the flow becomes:
Mumbai Server → LiveKit Cloud (US/EU) → Mumbai
This cross-region round trip appears to exceed the strict 0.7s timeout budget under slight latency/noise conditions.
3. Additionally, it seenms
When adaptive inference times out and fallback to VAD happens, the fallback VAD does not appear to properly respect/load min_interruption_duration.
As a result:
• interruption detection becomes unstable
• short/noisy audio chunks trigger inconsistent states
• the agent sometimes gets stuck in an unusable state ("state 0" behavior on our side)
This makes the fallback path unreliable in production.
Questions:
1. Is this a known limitation/bug with adaptive → VAD fallback handling. Is there any workaround/recommended configuration for stable fallback behavior?
2. Is there any way to self-host the adaptive interruption inference/VAD model on our own infrastructure?
3. Since we already have LiveKit Cloud Build Plan credentials, is there a recommended low-latency setup for hybrid deployments (self-hosted LiveKit + cloud adaptive inference)?
Currently, local vad mode feels more stable than adaptive mode due to these timeout/fallback issues.
Would appreciate guidance on the recommended production architecture and whether this fallback behavior is a known issue.tall-airline-16756
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05/13/2026, 9:18 AMmin_interruption_duration) are expected to remain in effect during fallback. There is no documented known bug that VAD parameters are ignored, but cross-layer interactions can produce unstable results in high-noise/latency conditions.
• Workarounds/recommendations:
◦ Use VAD-only interruption handling (interruption.mode = "vad") for self-hosted, high-latency, or noisy environments — this avoids Cloud round trips and is more predictable.
◦ Tune VAD settings (increase min_interruption_duration, raise resume_false_interruption) to reduce sensitivity to short/noisy chunks.
◦ Reduce noise at the source (microphone filtering, AGC, or pre-processing) so both adaptive and VAD are less likely to misclassify.
◦ If you must use adaptive, colocate media and inference (see next section) to avoid timeouts.
2) Can we self-host the adaptive inference/VAD model?
• You cannot self-host the adaptive inference model. Adaptive inference runs exclusively on LiveKit Cloud and is not available for on-prem or self-hosted deployments.
• You can run local VAD (Silero VAD plugin) on your infrastructure — that is supported and is the fallback/alternative when adaptive is not used or times out.
3) Recommended low-latency setup for hybrid deployments (self-hosted LiveKit + Cloud adaptive inference)
• Two practical production patterns:
◦ VAD-only on self-hosted LiveKit (recommended for self-hosted regional deployments): Keep media and interruption logic local. This avoids cross-region inference latency and fallbacks entirely.
◦ Full Cloud agents (recommended when you want adaptive): Move agent runtime/media to LiveKit Cloud so adaptive inference and media are co-located — eliminates cross-region RTT and the 700 ms timeout issues.
• There is no documented hybrid option that runs the adaptive model in your region; hybrid choices are effectively: VAD-only locally or migrate agent/media to Cloud for adaptive inference.
• If you must keep self-hosted server but want lower latency with Cloud adaptive: place your self-hosted instance in a region with reliably low latency to the Cloud data center used for inference (but this is brittle and not recommended versus VAD-only or full Cloud).
Debugging tips & next steps
• Enable Agent Console visualizations to inspect when adaptive classifies barge-ins vs backchannels — this helps tune thresholds.
• Try increasing min_interruption_duration and resume_false_interruption in VAD-only mode and validate in noisy conditions.
• Capture logs showing: adaptive timeout events, timestamps of request/response to agent-gateway, and the exact VAD decisions around those timeouts — this helps diagnose whether VAD parameters were applied during fallback.
If you’d like, tell me:
• Which Agent SDK/version you’re using (Python/TypeScript and versions),
• Current interruption settings (full config),
• Typical observed network RTT to agent-gateway.livekit.cloud from your Mumbai servers,
and I will suggest precise tuning values and test steps.
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05/13/2026, 9:19 AMtall-airline-16756
05/13/2026, 9:19 AMinterruption.mode = "vad". This removes Cloud round-trips and avoids adaptive timeouts.
• Tune VAD thresholds:
◦ Increase min_interruption_duration (e.g., from 0.5s → 0.8–1.0s) to ignore short noisy spikes.
◦ Increase resume_false_interruption (you already set 0.8; try 0.9 if false resumes persist).
◦ Optionally set min_interruption_words >0 if you have speech-to-text aligned transcripts.
• Add client-side audio pre-processing: noise suppression, AGC, and voice activity smoothing to reduce spurious triggers.
If you prefer adaptive behavior (higher accuracy) but avoid timeouts
• Move the agent runtime/media to LiveKit Cloud so inference and media are co-located (no cross-region RTT).
• If migration isn’t possible, reduce network latency to Cloud (place self-hosted servers in a region with low RTT to the Cloud inference endpoint). Note: this is fragile vs full Cloud.
Mitigations for fallback instability
• Log timestamps for adaptive request start/finish and VAD decisions to confirm VAD parameters are applied during fallback.
• Run controlled tests with synthetic noisy audio to reproduce the failure; capture Agent Console visualizations for each case.
• If fallback still seems to ignore min_interruption_duration, collect logs and samples for further diagnosis.
Operational improvements
• Increase observability: log adaptive timeouts, VAD triggers, and agent state transitions.
• Create replayable test cases (noisy vs clean) so you can validate config changes quickly.
• Use progressive rollout: test tuned VAD in a small % of calls before full roll-out.
Which option should we prioritize? And if you want tuning recommendations, please share:
• Agent SDK and version (Python/TS),
• Current interruption config (full block),
• Measured RTT from your Mumbai server to agent-gateway.livekit.cloud (ms),
• Example logs showing an adaptive timeout + fallback sequence.
I’ll return exact config values and test steps once you share those details.
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05/13/2026, 10:15 AMvad for production stability, what would be the recommended tuning strategy to reduce:
• false barge-ins
• interruption misses
• agent getting stuck after noisy interruptions
Our current configuration is:
LIVEKIT_MIN_INTERRUPTION_DURATION=0.5
LIVEKIT_RESUME_FALSE_INTERRUPTION=true
LIVEKIT_FALSE_INTERRUPTION_TIMEOUT=0.8
Observed behavior:
• Lower interruption duration improves responsiveness but increases false interruptions in noisy environments
• Increasing it reduces false barge-ins but sometimes misses genuine user interruptions
• Occasionally the agent still enters a stuck/interrupted state after noise-triggered interruptions
Are there recommended production-safe ranges or additional parameters we should tune for:
• noisy environments
• telephony-like audio
• real-time conversational agentstall-airline-16756
05/13/2026, 10:15 AMmin_interruption_duration, false-interruption controls, and related settings to balance responsiveness vs stability for noisy and telephony audio, and add operational steps to avoid stuck states.
Recommended parameter ranges (start here and iterate)
• min_interruption_duration (LIVEKIT_MIN_INTERRUPTION_DURATION)
◦ Noisy environments: 0.8 – 1.2 s
◦ Telephony / clean voice: 0.4 – 0.7 s
◦ Real-time conversational agents (balanced): 0.6 – 0.9 s
• resume_false_interruption (LIVEKIT_RESUME_FALSE_INTERRUPTION)
◦ Keep true to enable resume protection; use conservative thresholds in config that represent required confidence (you already enabled it).
• false_interruption_timeout (LIVEKIT_FALSE_INTERRUPTION_TIMEOUT)
◦ Noisy: 0.9 – 1.5 s
◦ Telephony: 0.6 – 1.0 s
• min_interruption_words (if STT with aligned transcripts available)
◦ Set to 1–2 for telephony/voice to require at least a word before confirming interruption (reduces short false triggers).
• Aggressive smoothing / debounce (if available)
◦ Apply short smoothing window of 100–250 ms for VAD decisions before flipping interruption state.
Tuning strategy (step-by-step)
1. Baseline collection
◦ Record representative samples: quiet, typical, noisy, telephony carrier noise, overlapping speech.
◦ Collect current call logs with VAD events and timestamps.
1. Conservative safety-first pass
◦ Set min_interruption_duration to the upper bound for your class (start 0.9s for noisy).
◦ Set false_interruption_timeout to 1.2s.
◦ Enable resume_false_interruption.
◦ If STT synced, set min_interruption_words = 1.
◦ Deploy to a small % of traffic and monitor.
1. Responsiveness tuning (only after stability)
◦ Lower min_interruption_duration in 0.1s steps until you hit acceptable responsiveness without rising false positives.
◦ Reduce false_interruption_timeout similarly if resumes feel too slow.
1. Noise-specific tweaks
◦ For telephony: prefer slightly lower min_interruption_duration (0.4–0.7s) plus min_interruption_words.
◦ For heavy ambient noise: prefer larger durations + stronger smoothing/debounce.
Preventing the agent from getting “stuck”
• Ensure resume_false_interruption is enabled (you have this true).
• Add an upper bound watchdog: if agent remains “interrupted” for > N seconds (e.g., 8–12s) without valid STT or user audio, force a resume/reset of turn state and log the event.
• On fallback events, log VAD decision inputs (energy, duration) so you can verify parameters were respected.
• Use a short backoff/retry: if multiple short noise-triggered interruptions occur, increase debounce temporarily.
Audio pre-processing (high impact)
• Add noise suppression and AGC before VAD.
• Apply bandpass filtering for telephony (300–3400 Hz) when appropriate.
• Normalize levels and remove DC offset.
Observability & testing
• Instrument: VAD on/off timestamps, interruption durations, resume events, fallback occurrences, and STT-aligned transcripts.
• Create replayable test cases (scripts with recorded noisy and clean calls) to validate any param change automatically.
• Use Agent Console visualizations to inspect decision timelines for problematic calls.
Example starting configs
• Noisy environments:
LIVEKIT_MIN_INTERRUPTION_DURATION=0.9
LIVEKIT_RESUME_FALSE_INTERRUPTION=true
LIVEKIT_FALSE_INTERRUPTION_TIMEOUT=1.2
LIVEKIT_MIN_INTERRUPTION_WORDS=0 # or 1 if STT aligned
• Telephony / low-bandwidth:
LIVEKIT_MIN_INTERRUPTION_DURATION=0.5
LIVEKIT_RESUME_FALSE_INTERRUPTION=true
LIVEKIT_FALSE_INTERRUPTION_TIMEOUT=0.8
LIVEKIT_MIN_INTERRUPTION_WORDS=1
When to consider switching approach
• If even after tuning you still see frequent misses/timeouts or stuck states in production, consider:
◦ Moving agents/media to LiveKit Cloud for adaptive inference, or
◦ Retaining VAD locally but adding server-side business logic (watchdog resets, additional STT checks) to guard state transitions.
If you want, I can propose exact values tailored to your environment — please share:
• Representative RTT and packet loss from Mumbai servers to your clients,
• A short set of sample audio logs (noisy vs clean) or the Agent SDK/version you’re running,
• Whether you have STT with aligned transcripts enabled.
Which environment should I tune for first: noisy/telephony/real-time balanced?
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