we're seeing constant llm spikes using gpt-4.1 inf...
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we're seeing constant llm spikes using gpt-4.1 inference on livekit. more than 20% of our llms calls are taking 1.5s for the ttft, different from the number pointed at https://benchmarks.staging.livekit.io. What's happening? how can we solve this?
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Thanks for reaching out, Douglas. I'm an AI assistant and I'm here to help. Give me a moment while I research this topic.
Thanks — I hear you: you’re seeing frequent TTFT spikes (~1.5s) with GPT‑4.1 on LiveKit that don’t match your expectation from the benchmark page. Let’s isolate causes and get you a path to fix. Quick checklist — please confirm any that apply so I can narrow this down: • Are your agents and inference endpoints deployed in the same region as the LiveKit inference model? • Do you see the spikes at particular times of day or under higher concurrency? • Are you using tool calls or long conversation context before the LLM call? (tools and large prompts add prep time) • What proportion of sessions show the spike (you said >20%) and do you have per-request TTFT traces from Agent Observability? What’s likely and what you can do now • Region/co‑location: If your agent isn’t co‑located with the inference endpoint, network RTT can add large, variable TTFT. Verify and, if needed, move the agent to the model’s region. • Tool calls & pipeline steps: Each tool or blocking pre-processing step delays generation start. Limit sequential tool steps or move non‑critical work off the request path. • Context size: Large prompts or long histories increase preprocessing time. Trim or summarize history before sending. • Concurrency / instance limits: Worker CPU throttling or instance burst limits under load cause delays. Check instance types and scale workers during peaks. • Dynamic routing / backend load: Provisioning or upstream provider congestion can cause variability. Using a fallback/alternate model or LiveKit’s routing strategies can smooth latency. Immediate diagnostics to run 1. Pull TTFT traces in Agent Observability for affected requests to see whether delay is in the LLM stage or earlier (STT/tool/prep). 2. Compare TTFT by region and by time-of-day to spot routing or load patterns. 3. Reproduce a slow request with minimal context and no tools — if it’s still ~1.5s, likely a network/provisioning issue. 4. Run a concurrency stress test to see if TTFT correlates with session count or CPU saturation. Short-term mitigations • Route some traffic to a lower‑latency fallback model for sensitive flows. • Reduce context and tool steps for real‑time paths. • Scale worker instances or move to non‑burstable instance types to avoid CPU throttling. If you confirm the answers to the checklist items (region, concurrency pattern, tool usage) and share one TTFT trace sample from Agent Observability (timestamp + request id), I’ll recommend the exact next steps tailored to your setup. Sources: Understand and Improve Agent Latency | LiveKit | Voice Agent Architecture: STT, LLM, and TTS Pipelines Explained | LiveKit | Build Your First AI Voice Agent in Python: Complete Tutorial | LiveKit | Build Your First AI Voice Agent in Python: Complete Tutorial | LiveKit, with interactive elements
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I deployed the agent at us-east, there's no high concurrency and everytime I'm seeing those 20% spikes per call
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Thanks — got it: agent is in us‑east, no high concurrency, and ~20% of GPT‑4.1 calls hit ~1.5s TTFT every time. Let’s narrow this down. Please confirm / provide: • Are you using any
function_tool
calls or external APIs during those turns? If yes, how many per turn and average durations. • Average conversation context size (number of prior messages or tokens) when spikes occur. • One or two Agent Observability trace samples (timestamp + request/session id) showing a slow turn — the Trace view will show whether time is spent in tooling, prep/encoding, or the LLM stage. • Any warnings/errors from agent logs around those requests. Quick next steps you can run now: 1. Open Agent Observability → Trace for a slow request and check the LLM node TTFT vs tool/prep durations. 2. Reproduce a slow call with minimal context and no tools; if it’s still ~1.5s, the delay is in network/provisioning. 3. If tools or external APIs are used, consolidate or cache results and set
max_tool_steps
to limit sequential calls. 4. If minimal-test still slow, try routing a small percentage of traffic to a fallback model (e.g., gpt‑4.1‑mini) to see if TTFT improves. If you share one trace sample and whether tools are used, I’ll analyze the exact span where time is lost and give precise remediation steps. Sources: Streamline troubleshooting with Agent Observability | LiveKit | Understand and Improve Agent Latency | LiveKit | Understand and Improve Agent Latency | LiveKit | Build Your First AI Voice Agent in Python: Complete Tutorial | LiveKit | Streamline troubleshooting with Agent Observability | LiveKit, with interactive elements