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We're experiencing consistent 5-6 second latency between SIP INVITE arriving at LiveKit Cloud and our self-hosted worker receiving the job dispatch, resulting in 6.5+ second time-to-answer on inbound calls. Our workers are healthy (10 VMs, <5% CPU, 25-35ms TCP latency to LiveKit Cloud, 3 idle prewarmed processes each, zero WS_FULL rejections), and once the worker receives the job it only takes ~1.4 seconds to connect and publish audio. The delay appears to be entirely within LiveKit's SIP-to-dispatch pipeline — we confirmed this by comparing SIP INVITE timestamps against worker entrypoint start times across dozens of calls.
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Thanks — that’s a clear, helpful problem description. I’m sorry you’re seeing a persistent 5–6s gap between the SIP INVITE arriving and your worker actually receiving the dispatch; I know that extra latency is painful for inbound call flows. I’m responding to your observation that the delay is entirely inside LiveKit’s SIP→dispatch pipeline (you confirmed this by comparing SIP INVITE timestamps to your worker entrypoint start times) and that your workers themselves look healthy and fast once they receive the job. To investigate this further I need a few targeted diagnostics and config details so I can narrow the root cause quickly: 1. Dispatch type and configuration ◦ Are you using webhook-based dispatch, API-based dispatch, or another mechanism? (If webhook, please confirm the webhook endpoint URL pattern — just the path is fine; no secrets.) ◦ Do you have any custom retry/backoff or queueing configured in your dispatch path? 1. Timestamps & logs ◦ For a few representative calls (with timestamps you already compared), can you provide: ▪︎ SIP INVITE timestamp (from your SIP gateway/Edge) and any SIP proxy logs you have for that call. ▪︎ Any LiveKit Cloud event timestamps you can access (webhook received time, dispatch enqueued time, dispatch sent time). If you cannot share raw logs, paste the sequence of timestamps and event labels. ◦ From your worker side, you mentioned the worker entrypoint start time — please include that for the same calls. 1. LiveKit-side diagnostcs ◦ Do you have webhook delivery logs (HTTP status, latency) for the dispatch webhook? If so, share recent delivery latencies and HTTP status codes. ◦ If you’re using API dispatch, can you share the round-trip time (RTT) from LiveKit Cloud to your worker’s control endpoint (or last hop latency)? 1. Network/location details ◦ Which LiveKit Cloud region are you hitting (region name)? ◦ Where are your self-hosted workers located (region / cloud / data center), and do those locations match the LiveKit region you’re using? ◦ You mentioned 25–35 ms TCP latency — is that to the LiveKit gateway that receives SIP, or to the dispatch control plane endpoint? 1. Volume / pattern ◦ Is this delay consistent at low call volume as well as high? Provide a sample call rate when you saw the 5–6s delays. ◦ Any recent changes (config, deployment, region switches) around when the problem began? What I can check or recommend immediately • Confirm whether you are using webhook dispatch vs. direct API dispatch. Webhook delivery issues (timeout, slow response, retries) can add several seconds if the dispatch path waits for webhook confirmation or retries. • Check any proxy or ingress in front of your worker control endpoint for buffering, timeouts, or queued connections (e.g., rate-limiting or SYN backlog) that could add seconds before the worker process actually starts handling the job. • Ensure LiveKit region <-> worker region alignment; cross-region control-plane hops sometimes add latency. • If you can pull a few full request/response timing traces (webhook delivery timestamps, or API call traces) that map the time from SIP INVITE → LiveKit internal events → dispatch send → worker receive, that will make root-cause identification straightforward. Next steps • Please attach (or paste) the timestamp sequences and any webhook/API delivery logs for 3–5 example calls, plus the answers to the questions above. • Once I have that, I’ll correlate the timeline and point to the most likely component (webhook delivery, dispatch queueing, regional routing, or something else) and give concrete remediation steps to reduce the 5–6s delay. Thanks — with those logs/timestamps I can dig in and propose the next concrete fixes. Sources: Agent dispatch | LiveKit Documentation | Decentraland&amp;#39;s Catalyst: using WebRTC to interact in the metaverse | Decentraland&amp;#39;s Catalyst: using WebRTC to interact in the metaverse | Decentraland&amp;#39;s Catalyst: using WebRTC to interact in the metaverse | Live Conversations with AI using ChatGPT and WebRTC
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Dispatch type and configuration: We use SIP Dispatch Rules (not webhook or API dispatch). We have one rule, type "Individual (Caller)", creating rooms with pattern call-_<caller>_<random>. Our workers register via WorkerOptions with num_idle_processes=3. No custom retry/backoff — we rely entirely on LiveKit's built-in dispatch. The worker also dispatches a separate "subscriber-bot" agent via create_dispatch() after the entrypoint starts, but that's after the initial dispatch. Timestamps for a representative call (TTA=6506ms): - SIP INVITE arrived at LiveKit: ~170806.4 UTC (calculated from call.answered minus TTA) - SIP participant joined room with callStatus: ringing: 170811.396 UTC - Worker entrypoint start (PID marked busy, "Connecting to room"): 170811.544 UTC - Worker ctx.connect done: 170812.091 UTC - call.answered (200 OK sent by SIP bridge): 170812.905 UTC - Gap from INVITE to worker receiving job: 5.1 seconds — all inside LiveKit Cloud - Gap from worker start to 200 OK: 1.4 seconds — our side LiveKit-side diagnostics: No webhook dispatch — we use SIP dispatch rules, so there are no webhook delivery logs. The dispatch is handled entirely by LiveKit internally. Network/location details: - Workers: Azure VMSS in West US region - TCP latency from workers to LiveKit Cloud: 22-38ms - We don't know what LiveKit region our project is pinned to — can you confirm? Volume/pattern: - The 5-6s delay is consistent at both low and high call volume. We see it on ~30-40 calls per day out of ~800+ total. - During the examples above, we had ~4 calls/minute across 10 worker VMs with 3 idle processes each (30 idle slots), CPU load <5% on all VMs, zero WS_FULL rejections. - No recent config changes around when this started. We've been observing this pattern for at least the past 2 days.
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Thanks — this is very helpful and clarifies the setup. I’m responding to your confirmation that you use SIP Dispatch Rules (Individual (Caller)), worker idle processes = 3, and that the measured ~5.1s gap is entirely inside LiveKit Cloud (INVITE → worker dispatch). You also confirmed workers run in West US and TCP RTT is ~22–38 ms. Given that LiveKit’s dispatch is normally sub-150 ms and your workers look healthy, this behavior is unexpected. I can’t access internal LiveKit Cloud logs from here, but I can help narrow root causes and give targeted next steps that will surface where the time is being spent. Immediate possibilities to investigate • Dispatch routing / region mismatch: If your project is pinned to a LiveKit region that is geographically distant from your workers, internal routing or control-plane handoffs could add extra seconds. You asked whether I can confirm your LiveKit project region — I can check that if you share your LiveKit project ID (only the ID, not credentials). Please provide that and I’ll confirm the region. • SIP gateway → internal handoff: SIP INVITE reaches the SIP bridge quickly, but the internal step that converts the INVITE into a dispatch job may be queued or serially processed in a component experiencing spikes. This would be visible in LiveKit-side event timestamps (enqueue → dispatch send). • Dispatch assignment logic for "Individual (Caller)": If many rooms share the same pattern or if the caller-based routing requires additional lookups, there could be an extra lookup or throttling step. This is less likely but worth validating. • Intermittent control-plane backpressure: Some internal dispatch components may occasionally pause/slow during GC, leader election, or transient load spikes even when worker capacity exists. That would explain intermittent (30–40/day) occurrences with consistent delay. • Worker registration / heartbeat timing: If LiveKit waits for a specific registration/idle-window check before assigning an idle process, timing alignment could add seconds. You said workers register with num_idle_processes=3 — please confirm whether you see the idle slots consistently in worker metrics (i.e., LiveKit reports them as available). Concrete next steps I recommend (ordered, with what I need from you) 1) Confirm LiveKit project region • Action for you: Share your LiveKit project ID. • What I’ll do: I’ll confirm which LiveKit Cloud region your project is pinned to and report back whether that region aligns with West US workers. 2) Provide 3 example calls with internal timestamp sequences • Action for you: For 3 recent problematic calls, paste these timestamps (or minimal logs): ◦ SIP INVITE received timestamp (you already have) ◦ LiveKit internal events if available (e.g., room creation time, dispatch enqueue/send times) — if you don’t have these, paste the SIP INVITE and worker entrypoint start times like you already did. ◦ Worker entrypoint PID busy timestamp (you already provided one example). • Why: Multiple samples let us confirm whether the delay is consistent and whether there’s a fixed offset or variable delay. 3) Confirm worker-side reporting of idle slots • Action for you: From your worker monitoring, confirm that LiveKit reports 3 idle processes per worker and whether you ever see a momentary drop in reported idle slots around affected calls. • Why: If LiveKit doesn’t see an idle slot at dispatch evaluation time, it may wait or retry, causing delay. 4) Short-term mitigation tests you can try now • Temporarily increase
num_idle_processes
to 6 on one VM and observe whether the frequency or magnitude of the delay changes for calls dispatched to that VM. • Temporarily move a test worker VM into the same cloud region as the LiveKit project (I’ll confirm your project region after you share the ID) and run tests to compare TTA. • If possible, create a second SIP Dispatch Rule that creates a deterministic room name for a test caller and validate whether that changes dispatch latency (to rule out any lookup/pathology in the rule evaluation). 5) Capture a full trace for a single call • Action for you: For one test call, capture these timings and response metadata: ◦ SIP INVITE arrival time at LiveKit SIP bridge ◦ Any LiveKit event times you can access (room create, participant join, dispatch decision, dispatch send) ◦ Worker entrypoint start time and any logs from the worker showing when it received the dispatch RPC • Why: A full trace will let us correlate exactly where the multi-second gap occurs inside LiveKit. What I’ll do after you provide the project ID and timestamps • Confirm the LiveKit Cloud region for your project and call out any cross-region mismatch with your West US workers. • Correlate the timelines you provide and point to the most likely internal component (dispatch evaluation, enqueueing, routing, or worker assignment) and recommend an exact remediation path (region move, worker config change, or rule tweak). • Suggest targeted tests to verify the suspected cause (for example, reproducing with a worker in the same region, or using higher
num_idle_processes
). If you prefer, give me: • The LiveKit project ID • 3 example calls’ timestamp sequences (those you already used are perfect) and I’ll start by confirming your project region and correlating timelines. Thanks — you’re close to a deterministic trace; with the project ID and a couple more samples I’ll map the delay to the exact step and recommend the fastest fix.
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"please confirm whether you see the idle slots consistently in worker metrics (i.e., LiveKit reports them as available)." how can i chekc this
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Good question — let’s walk through how to confirm whether LiveKit is consistently seeing your
num_idle_processes
(idle slots) as available. Below are practical ways to check, ranked by ease. Pick whichever fits your setup. 1) LiveKit Console / Project UI • If you have access to the LiveKit Cloud console for your project, check the worker or dispatch dashboard for registered workers and their reported idle process count. Look for each worker instance and verify the displayed idle slots (should show 3 per worker given your config). • If you see fewer idle slots than expected around the time of an affected call, that indicates LiveKit didn’t consider those processes available at dispatch time. 2) Worker logs (recommended) • In your worker startup logs you should see the registration/heartbeat logs where the worker reports
num_idle_processes=3
. Search your logs for the registration/heartbeat entries and note timestamps. • For each problematic call, match the timestamp when LiveKit dispatched the job (you already use worker entrypoint start time). Immediately before that dispatch time, confirm the most recent worker heartbeat log showed 3 idle slots. • Example things to look for in logs: ◦ Worker registration: "registered worker, idle_slots=3" (or similar wording) ◦ Periodic heartbeat entries with current idle slot count ◦ Any log entries showing idle slots dropping to 0 or being adjusted 3) Worker metrics / telemetry (Prometheus, Cloud metrics) • If your workers export metrics (Prometheus, Azure Monitor, etc.), look for a metric that reports idle processes or worker capacity. Query the metric for the time window around affected calls and confirm it stayed at 3. • Useful queries: ◦ Check the gauge that represents idle slots per worker. If you don’t have a specific gauge, look for
worker_process_count
,
worker_idle_count
, or similar names. ◦ Plot that metric for the host/VM that received the problematic calls and check for dips at the timestamps you recorded. 4) LiveKit SDK or Control-plane logs (if available) • Some LiveKit control/dispatch logs show assignment events and the worker state at assignment time. If you can access any LiveKit-side logs for your project (console or log export), inspect the dispatch assignment record for the call and see what idle slots were known at that moment. 5) Quick live test you can run now 1. Temporarily enable verbose logging on one worker VM. 2. Generate a test incoming call that you can control. 3. Observe the worker logs for registration/heartbeat, then watch for the assignment log when the call arrives. 4. Confirm that prior to assignment the logs show
idle=3
(or equivalent) and that assignment occurs immediately after. What to share back • A few example log lines showing worker registration/heartbeat with idle slot counts and the timestamps around problematic calls. • Any metric query or graph that shows idle slots per worker for a 30–60s window around a delayed call. If you share one example (worker heartbeat log lines + the worker entrypoint start timestamp for the same call), I’ll help correlate and interpret whether LiveKit saw the idle slots available at dispatch time and what that implies for the 5–6s delay.
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where do i look in the console?
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Thanks — I’ll point you to where to check worker idle slots in the LiveKit Cloud console and what to look for. I don’t have screenshots here, so follow these steps in the console UI. 1) Open your LiveKit project • Sign into the LiveKit Cloud console and select the project you use for these SIP calls. 2) Workers (or Agents) view • In the left-hand navigation, open the section labeled “Workers”, “Agents”, or “Dispatch” (labeling can vary slightly by UI version). • Look for a list of registered worker instances/VMs. Click the worker that corresponds to one of your Azure VMs. What to look for: • An “idle slots”, “idle processes”, or
num_idle_processes
field showing the configured and currently available count (should show 3 configured, and a current available count). • Recent heartbeat or registration timestamp that indicates when the worker last reported state. • Any status indicators like “Healthy”, “Busy”, or counts of busy vs idle processes. 3) Dispatch / Assignment logs • From the same project, open the “Dispatch” or “Assignments” view (sometimes a tab under Workers or a separate Dispatch dashboard). • Find recent dispatch events for the timeframe of your problematic calls. • For each dispatch event, inspect the record to see which worker was chosen and whether the event shows the worker’s idle slot count at assignment time. 4) Project region info • In Project Settings (often under the project name or a settings gear), locate the “Region” or “Deployment Region” field to confirm which LiveKit region your project is pinned to. 5) If you don’t see explicit “idle slots” info • Check worker details for lines like “registered with num_idle_processes=3” or heartbeat logs exposed in the console. • Check the worker’s recent events for “process started”, “process busy”, or “process available” entries. If you prefer, paste the exact top-level menu items you see in your console (left nav list) and I’ll point to the exact menu to click. Or share your project ID and I’ll confirm the region for you and guide the exact panel names to check.
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Each one of my VMs has 4 vcpus
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Thanks — that’s useful context. A quick, practical reply to two things you just provided: where to check idle slots, and how your VM size (4 vCPUs) relates to
num_idle_processes
. Where to check idle slots in the LiveKit console (quick steps) 1. Open the LiveKit Cloud console and select your project. 2. Navigate to the left-hand menu and open the “Workers” / “Dispatch” / “Agents” section. 3. Click an individual worker (one of your Azure VMs). In that worker detail pane look for: ◦ Idle slots / idle processes / num_idle_processes — it should show the configured value (3) and the currently available count. ◦ Last heartbeat / registration timestamp — confirms when the worker last reported state. ◦ Status indicators like Healthy / Busy and counts of busy vs idle processes. 1. Optionally open the “Dispatch” or “Assignments” view and inspect recent dispatch events. For a delayed call, check which worker was chosen and whether the record shows the worker’s idle count at assignment time. If the console UI labels differ, paste the top-level menu names you see and I’ll point to the exact panel. How 4 vCPUs relates to
num_idle_processes=3
• Each idle process consumes CPU when it becomes active; the 3 idle processes per VM is typically reasonable on a 4‑vCPU machine for handling multiple simultaneous short-lived dispatch jobs. • However, CPU count alone doesn’t guarantee immediate assignment — other factors (worker heartbeat timing, process scheduling, or control-plane timing) affect whether LiveKit sees those idle slots as available at the exact moment of dispatch. Quick checks to validate capacity and behavior • In the worker detail pane or logs, confirm you consistently see
idle=3
in the heartbeat/registration entries immediately before a delayed dispatch. • Temporarily increase
num_idle_processes
on one VM (for example to 5–6) and run controlled tests to see if the frequency of 5–6s delays drops for calls routed to that VM. If delays reduce, it suggests a timing/slot-availability effect rather than pure CPU starvation. • Enable verbose worker logging on one VM and capture the registration/heartbeat + dispatch assignment logs for a single test call to produce a full timing trace. If you want, I can: • Confirm your project’s LiveKit region (I only need the project ID). • Walk you through exactly what log lines to paste from your worker so I can interpret whether LiveKit saw the idle slots at dispatch time. Which would you like to do next — confirm the region, increase idle processes for a short test, or capture a sample of worker heartbeat logs?
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is it safe to increase num idle process over number of vcpus?
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Short answer: No — don’t set
num_idle_processes
higher than the number of vCPUs on the VM. Why not (brief): • CPU contention: When a job starts an idle process becomes active and uses CPU. If you have more active processes than vCPUs, they contend for CPU time, increasing context switches and causing latency spikes rather than reducing latency. • Diminishing returns: Idle processes help by pre-warming memory and models, but more idle processes than cores doesn’t improve throughput and can make start times worse when several wake at once. • Best-practice sizing: For predictable performance, size
num_idle_processes
at or slightly below vCPU count. For typical voice agent workloads, LiveKit guidance starts at roughly 4 cores and 8 GB per agent server. What to do instead (practical next steps): • Keep
num_idle_processes
≤ number of vCPUs (so with 4 vCPUs, use 3–4 idle processes). • If you need more concurrent capacity, scale horizontally by adding worker VMs rather than packing more idle processes onto a single VM. • Use
prewarm
or explicit warm-up logic (if your agent supports it) so heavy initialization happens before incoming calls. • For troubleshooting your 5–6s dispatch delay, try a short test: a. Keep
num_idle_processes
≤ 4 on existing VMs. b. Add one additional VM with the same config and run controlled calls to see if delay frequency drops. This will tell you whether capacity/timing at the worker side is contributing. If you want, I can: • Help pick the right test parameters (how many extra VMs, test call cadence). • Review a sample worker log showing registration/heartbeat + idle count if you paste it, so we can confirm LiveKit saw the idle slots at dispatch time. Sources: Troubleshooting Latency and Timeout Errors with Turn Detection on AWS | Server options | LiveKit Documentation | Self-hosted deployments | LiveKit Documentation | Agents (Python) | livekit/livekit_composite | DeepWiki