<#C088ZNU7QQ5|> # Initialize session session =...
# ask-ai
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#C088ZNU7QQ5 # Initialize session session = AgentSession( llm=openai.LLM(model="gpt-4.1-mini", temperature=0), stt=deepgram.STT(model="nova-3", language="multi"), tts=cartesia.TTS( model="sonic-3", voice="b7d50908-b17c-442d-ad8d-810c63997ed9", # voice="a53c3509-ec3f-425c-a223-977f5f7424dd", _sample_rate_=8000 ), vad=ctx.proc.userdata["vad"], _preemptive_generation_=True, ) So I am using this and removed the Turn detection to decrease my EOU latency. proc.userdata["vad"] = silero.VAD.load( _min_silence_duration_=0.15, _prefix_padding_duration_=0.08, _activation_threshold_=0.65, _deactivation_threshold_=0.20, _sample_rate_=8000, ) Sometimes the agent start speaking obv because I removed turn detection because with that I could not reach real time (EOU took 2-3 seconds) but now it just takes (0.5) makes it very real time. 1. I want to know if I implement turn deteciton. WHich model is the fastest. which setting are optimial for English langugae. 2. If not, what can I do in my current setting to improve the experience of the conversation. ( I think its okay but my friends are not native speakers they face issues)
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Thanks — this is clear and helpful context. I’ll address both questions: (A) which turn-detection model and settings are fastest for English, and (B) how to improve your current VAD-only setup for better UX with non-native speakers. Acknowledgement • You removed turn detection to reduce EOU latency from ~2–3s to ~0.5s, using Silero VAD with the settings you shared. • You want low latency but fewer false cut-offs for non-native speakers. A) Fastest turn-detection option for English (recommended) • Use the English-optimized turn detector: EnglishModel() (or MultilingualModel if you prefer one model for many languages). Both run on CPU and are designed for real-time inference; EnglishModel() is the fastest for English. • Combine the turn detector + VAD + tuned endpoint delays to keep latency low while avoiding mid-sentence cut-offs. Recommended starting config (fast + robust):
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from livekit.plugins.turn_detector import EnglishModel
from livekit.plugins import silero

vad = silero.VAD.load(
  min_silence_duration=0.30,      # avoids very-short pause cut-offs
  activation_threshold=0.65,
  deactivation_threshold=0.20,
  sample_rate=16000               # prefer 16kHz for better accuracy if your pipeline supports it
)

session = AgentSession(
  turn_detection=EnglishModel(),
  vad=vad,
  stt=deepgram.STT(model="nova-3", language="en"),
  min_endpointing_delay=0.3,      # shorter wait before deciding EOU
  max_endpointing_delay=2.0,
  preemptive_generation=True,
)
Why this helps: • The turn detector uses semantic cues so it won’t cut off natural pauses the way VAD-only systems do. •
min_endpointing_delay=0.3
lets you approach ~500ms EOU while still allowing the model to confirm end-of-turn. B) If you keep your current (no turn detection) setup — improvements for non-native speakers • Increase
min_silence_duration
from 0.15 to ~0.3–0.4s. Non-native speakers often pause longer; 0.15s is too aggressive and causes premature agent starts. • Lower activation threshold slightly (e.g., 0.55–0.60) so softer voices are detected reliably. • Keep
deactivation_threshold
a bit lower (0.15–0.20) to avoid stopping while a speaker trails off. • Prefer 16 kHz audio if feasible — better fidelity improves VAD/STT performance. • Keep
preemptive_generation=True
— it helps responsiveness while waiting for the full endpoint decision. • Add a short pre-speech pause before agent playback (e.g., 150–250ms) to avoid interrupting lingering speech and to feel more natural. • Consider STT-based endpointing as a middle ground: use the STT provider’s endpointing (turn_detection="stt") for faster, content-aware decisions if full turn detector is too heavyweight. Example adjusted VAD-only config:
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vad = silero.VAD.load(
  min_silence_duration=0.35,
  activation_threshold=0.58,
  deactivation_threshold=0.18,
  sample_rate=16000
)
Quick checklist to iterate: • Try EnglishModel() with min_endpointing_delay=0.3 and 16kHz audio. Measure EOU and cut-offs. • If CPU or latency constraints prevent turn detection, use the adjusted VAD params above and STT-based endpointing. • Test with non-native speakers and increase min_silence_duration until false cut-offs drop to acceptable levels. If you want, tell me: • whether you can switch to 16 kHz audio, • whether CPU is constrained (so I can suggest lighter-weight settings), • and a short sample of the problematic scenarios (long pauses, soft speech, filler words). I’ll suggest tuned values or a short A/B test plan. Sources: Turns overview | LiveKit docs | LiveKit turn detector plugin | LiveKit docs | Agents Framework | livekit/livekit_composite | DeepWiki | Silero VAD plugin | LiveKit docs | Improving voice AI&amp;#39;s turn detection with transformers
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Give me code snippet to use the english model
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Below is a concise, ready-to-use Python snippet showing how to use the English turn-detection model with Silero VAD and Deepgram STT in an AgentSession. Adjust sample rates and thresholds to match your pipeline.
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from livekit import AgentSession
from livekit.plugins.turn_detector import EnglishModel
from livekit.plugins import silero
import deepgram

# Configure STT (Deepgram) — replace with your client init as needed
stt = deepgram.STT(model="nova-3", language="en")

# Tune VAD for responsiveness and non-native speakers
vad = silero.VAD.load(
    min_silence_duration=0.30,     # avoid premature cut-offs
    activation_threshold=0.65,
    deactivation_threshold=0.20,
    sample_rate=16000              # prefer 16kHz if your pipeline supports it
)

session = AgentSession(
    llm=openai.LLM(model="gpt-4.1-mini", temperature=0),
    stt=stt,
    tts=cartesia.TTS(model="sonic-3", voice="b7d50908-b17c-442d-ad8d-810c63997ed9", sample_rate=16000),
    vad=vad,
    turn_detection=EnglishModel(),    # English-optimized turn detector
    min_endpointing_delay=0.3,        # lower for faster EOU decisions
    max_endpointing_delay=2.0,
    preemptive_generation=True,
)

# Example usage hooks (pseudo-code; integrate with your event loop)
async def on_user_audio_chunk(chunk):
    await session.feed_audio(chunk)

async def on_session_ready():
    # start any session-specific tasks or handlers
    pass

# Start/stop as per your application lifecycle
If you want, I can provide: • a variant optimized for CPU-constrained environments, • an example using STT-based endpointing instead of turn detection, • or a short A/B test plan to compare EOU latency and cut-offs. Which would you like next?