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12/15/2025, 4:28 PMend_of_utterance_delay and transcription_delay to see where time is spent (you already have ~300–350 ms transcription).
• Correlate VAD end timestamp, STT final/interim timestamps, and turn-detector decision timestamp to identify which layer adds ~800–900 ms.
Infrastructure checks
• CPU / process latency: ensure VAD and turn-detector processes are not CPU-throttled; even if Whisper is local and fast, CPU contention can delay VAD/turn-detector callbacks.
• I/O and thread scheduling: run VAD, STT, and turn-detector in low-latency threads/processes and avoid blocking operations between them.
Practical step-by-step to try now
1. Reduce Silero VAD post-debounce/padding by ~100–200 ms and test.
2. Decrease min_endpointing_delay to 200–300 ms and lower max to ~2–3 s.
3. Ensure Whisper streams interim results immediately (no extra buffering).
4. Measure EOUMetrics after each change to confirm improvement.
5. If still high, profile CPU/threads for the VAD and turn-detector processes.
If you want, tell me the current values for Silero padding/debounce and your LiveKit `min_endpointing_delay`/`max_endpointing_delay` and confidence thresholds and I’ll suggest exact numbers to try.red-television-3815
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12/15/2025, 4:31 PMmin_silence_duration — silence required to mark speech end. Default ~0.55s. Try 0.2–0.4s.
• min_speech_duration — min speech to start a segment. Default ~0.05s. Keep 0.03–0.05s for short utterances.
• activation_threshold — confidence threshold for speech detection. Default ~0.5. Increase in noisy environments (0.6–0.7) or lower (0.4–0.5) for earlier detection.
• prefix_padding_duration — audio padding before speech start. Default ~0.5s. Try 0.1–0.3s to reduce latency.
• (If present) post_debounce_duration / suffix_padding — silence appended after speech end. Reduce by 100–250ms.
Whisper / STT streaming settings
• streaming / partial_result_interval (or provider-specific buffer/window) — ensure interim/partial transcripts are emitted quickly; reduce buffer window to 100–200ms if configurable.
• batch_size / audio_chunk_size — lower chunk sizes to get earlier partials (tradeoff: CPU).
LiveKit turn detection / endpointing (AgentSession / TurnDetection options)
• min_endpointing_delay — minimum delay after high-confidence end. Default 0.5s. Try 0.2–0.3s.
• max_endpointing_delay — maximum wait for low-confidence cases. Default up to 6s. Try 1.5–2.5s.
• end_of_turn_confidence_threshold (STT-based) — threshold for STT semantic endpointing. Default ~0.4. Try 0.25–0.35 for quicker endpoints (watch false positives).
• For realtime/OpenAI plugin: silence_duration_ms — default 500ms; try 250–350ms.
• For semantic/transformer detector: eagerness (or similar param) — values like `low`/`medium`/`high`; set to high for faster endpointing if available.
Agent / session-level and plugin wiring
• turn_detection — set to vad (fast VAD-only), stt (STT-based endpointing), or `multilingual`/transformer model. Use vad or stt for lower latency; transformer adds semantic checks and may add delay.
• vad plugin reference — ensure LiveKit session references your tuned Silero VAD instance (no extra padding added by session layer).
Observability / metrics to measure changes
• EOUMetrics.end_of_utterance_delay — primary metric to watch.
• EOUMetrics.transcription_delay — confirms STT time.
• Correlate timestamps: VAD end → STT interim/final → turn-detector decision.
Practical tuning order (apply one change at a time and measure)
1. Reduce Silero `post_debounce`/`min_silence_duration` by ~100–250ms.
2. Ensure Whisper streams partials (reduce STT buffer).
3. Set min_endpointing_delay = 0.2–0.3s and max_endpointing_delay = 1.5–2.0s.
4. If using STT endpointing, lower end_of_turn_confidence_threshold to ~0.3.
5. Re-measure end_of_utterance_delay after each step.
If you want, share your current values for:
• min_silence_duration, prefix_padding_duration, any `post_debounce`/`suffix_padding` in Silero; and
• min_endpointing_delay, max_endpointing_delay, and end_of_turn_confidence_threshold in LiveKit,
and I’ll recommend exact numbers to try next.
Sources: Silero VAD plugin | LiveKit docs | Improving voice AI's turn detection with transformers | How does end-of-utterance detection work in conversations? | OpenAI Realtime API plugin guide | LiveKit docs | LiveKit turn detector plugin | LiveKit docs