Can you tell me what does room.localParticipant.publishData do? The backend can simply listen to the published data without performing any LLM calls am I right? Also, how do i get the transcript after the end?

Thanks for reaching out, Mok. I'm an AI assistant and I'm here to help. Give me a moment while I research this topic.

The framework that I am using is the STT, LLM, TTS, for this I wish to keep track of the conversation transcript, both during and at the end. Is there a way to get the transcripts? Can you also explain about the topic lk.transcription

Hey there! If you want to keep track of conversation transcripts during and after a session using STT, LLM, and TTS frameworks, LiveKit’s transcription features have got you covered: • Real-Time Transcriptions: Just enable transcription in the

AgentSession

configuration. This way, transcriptions are created for both what the user says (via STT) and the agent’s responses (via LLM and TTS). • Access Transcription Events: You can tap into the

RoomEvent.TranscriptionReceived

event to gather transcription segments as they happen. These segments come with handy details like who’s speaking and timestamps. • Save Full History: When the session wraps up, you can save the whole conversation history using the

session.history

property. The

lk.transcription

topic is what handles real-time transcriptions. It lets agents share transcriptions of both participant and agent speech right to the frontend. Here are some cool features: • Metadata like

lk.transcribed_track_id

(audio track ID),

lk.segment_id

(unique segment ID), and

lk.transcription_final

(shows if the segment is final). • Support for synchronized transcription forwarding, so text appears word-by-word in sync with the audio. • Clients can set up a text stream handler for the

lk.transcription

topic using

room.registerTextStreamHandler()

. If you want me to walk you through any part or need more details, just let me know—I’m here to help! Sources: Session recording and transcripts | LiveKit Docs | tests/test_agent_session.py | test/agents/host.py | Transcriptions | LiveKit Docs | Pipeline nodes and hooks | LiveKit Docs

The issue with getting the transcript from just session.history would be, if in the future, i wish to summarise the history, before passing it to LLM, then the session.history might get ruined isnt it?

Hey there! To help you avoid any hiccups when summarizing or tweaking

session.history

for LLM input, here are some friendly tips: • Keep the Original History Intact: It’s best to always access the full conversation history through

session.history

without changing it directly. If you need to work with it, try using

.copy()

to make a safe, editable version. • Summarize in Chunks: When the history gets long, break it into smaller parts and summarize each one separately. This helps avoid token overflow and keeps things accurate. • Keep an Eye in Real-Time: Use events like

conversation_item_added

to do quick summaries or save parts of the conversation as it happens. • Save History Outside: Consider saving the full history somewhere else (like a JSON file) using

add_shutdown_callback()

so you can look back or reuse it later. • Smart Truncation: If you don’t need the entire history, just focus on the most recent messages or trim it thoughtfully to keep the important context. Following these tips will help you summarize and prep your history for LLM input smoothly, without losing important details or context. If you want me to walk you through any step or share some examples, just let me know—I’m here to help! Sources: Workflows | LiveKit Docs | Agents 0.x migration guide | LiveKit Docs | livekit-plugins/livekit-plugins-google/livekit/plugins/google/beta/realtime... | Session recording and transcripts | LiveKit Docs | Knowledge Management System | livekit/livekit_composite | DeepWiki

can u elaborate more on the lk.transcription?

The

lk.transcription

topic in LiveKit is all about handling real-time transcriptions created by LiveKit Agents. Here’s a friendly rundown of the key points: • Purpose: It lets agents share transcriptions of participant speech (using STT) and agent-generated speech (using TTS) with the frontend as it happens. • Metadata Attributes: Each transcription snippet comes with handy metadata like: ◦ `lk.transcribed_track_id`: Tells you which audio track is being transcribed. ◦ `lk.segment_id`: A unique ID for each piece of transcription. ◦ `lk.transcription_final`: Shows whether the transcription is final or still being updated. • Synchronized Transcription: It supports synchronized transcription forwarding, so text appears word-by-word in perfect sync with the audio. • Text Stream Handling: You can register a text stream handler for the

lk.transcription

topic using

room.registerTextStreamHandler()

, making it easy to process and display transcriptions live. • Agent Configuration: If an agent is set up for text-only responses (no audio), it still sends responses through the

lk.transcription

topic, just without the

lk.transcribed_track_id

attribute. This topic is super useful for apps that need real-time transcription, like live captioning, tracking conversations, or syncing text with audio playback. If you want me to walk you through anything or share some examples, just let me know—I’m here to help!

Is there a way to save the transcription as a web vtt format

LiveKit doesn’t seem to have a built-in option to save transcriptions as WebVTT format, but no worries! I’d be happy to walk you through how to take your transcription data and turn it into WebVTT. Would you like me to share some easy steps to get that done?

sure, please do share

Hey there! If you want to save LiveKit transcriptions as WebVTT format, you can take the transcription data and convert it into the format you need. Here’s a friendly step-by-step on how to do that: 1. Collect Transcription Data: Keep an eye on the

RoomEvent.TranscriptionReceived

event to grab transcription segments as they come in. Each segment comes with useful info like timestamps, the text itself, and whether it’s the final piece of that segment. 2. Format the Data: WebVTT has a particular format with timestamps and text. Here’s a simple example to give you an idea:

WEBVTT

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.000
Hello, this is a transcription example.

00:00:05.001 --> 00:00:10.000
This is the next segment of text.

3. Generate WebVTT File: You can write a script that goes through your transcription segments and formats them into WebVTT. Here’s a quick JavaScript example: `// Example JavaScript function to generate WebVTT function generateWebVTT(transcriptions) { let vtt = 'WEBVTT\n\n'; transcriptions.forEach((segment, index) => { const start = formatTimestamp(segment.startTime); const end = formatTimestamp(segment.endTime); vtt += `${start} --> ${end}\n${segment.text}\n\n`; }); return vtt; } function formatTimestamp(timeInSeconds) { const date = new Date(timeInSeconds * 1000); return date.toISOString().substr(11, 12).replace('.', ','); }` 4. Save the File: After you’ve got your WebVTT content ready, save it as a

.vtt

file. For example, in Node.js, you can use the

fs

module like this:

const fs = require('fs');
fs.writeFileSync('transcription.vtt', vttContent);

If you want me to help with more examples or a different programming language, just let me know—I’m here to help!

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Hey there! The error happens because

preemptive_generation

isn’t a valid parameter for

AgentSession.start()

. Instead, you’ll want to set it up when you initialize the

AgentSession

object. Here’s a quick example of how to do that:

session = AgentSession(
    stt=deepgram.STT(),
    llm=openai.LLM(),
    tts=cartesia.TTS(),
    vad=silero.VAD.load(),
    turn_detection=MultilingualModel(),
    preemptive_generation=True  # Enable preemptive generation here
)

await session.start(
    agent=MyAgent(),
    room=ctx.room,
    room_input_options=RoomInputOptions(noise_cancellation=noise_cancellation.BVC()),
    room_output_options=RoomOutputOptions(transcription_enabled=True)
)

By setting

preemptive_generation=True

during initialization, your agent will start generating responses as soon as partial transcripts come in, which helps cut down on any waiting time. If you have any questions or need a hand with this, just let me know—I’m here to help! Sources: Building voice agents | LiveKit Docs | examples/voice_agents/langgraph_agent.py | Agent speech and audio | LiveKit Docs

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' (1.858s - 2.891s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102628.431079+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'The ' (2.891s - 3.065s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102628.431881+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'founder ' (3.065s - 3.413s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102628.432266+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'of ' (3.413s - 3.506s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102628.436600+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'Pravidhi ' (3.506s - 3.959s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102628.436995+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'AI ' (3.959s - 4.423s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102628.437366+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'is ' (4.423s - 4.644s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102628.437856+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: '[Founder's ' (4.644s - 5.155s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.069843+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'Name, ' (5.155s - 5.422s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.070348+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'if ' (5.422s - 5.619s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.070706+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'known]. ' (5.619s - 6.432s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.070993+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'Pravidhi ' (6.432s - 6.919s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.089276+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'AI ' (6.919s - 7.21s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.089677+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'was ' (7.21s - 7.395s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.090008+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'established ' (7.395s - 7.929s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.090390+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'with ' (7.929s - 8.08s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.090790+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'a ' (8.08s - 8.162s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.091051+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'vision ' (8.162s - 8.487s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.091333+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'to ' (8.487s - 8.638s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.126909+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'leverage ' (8.638s - 9.032s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.127365+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'technology ' (9.032s - 9.717s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.127862+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'for ' (9.717s - 9.891s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.128384+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'enhancing ' (9.891s - 10.379s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.130420+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'business ' (10.379s - 10.727s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.131445+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'solutions. ' (10.727s - 11.807s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.132318+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'If ' (11.807s - 11.981s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.133153+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'you ' (11.981s - 12.109s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.153969+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'have ' (12.109s - 12.283s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102630.154435+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'any ' (12.283s - 12.469s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.097986+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'specific ' (12.469s - 12.957s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.098447+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'questions ' (12.957s - 13.433s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.098923+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'about ' (13.433s - 13.642s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.099404+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'our ' (13.642s - 13.77s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.099854+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'products ' (13.77s - 14.153s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.100175+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'or ' (14.153s - 14.269s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.135621+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'services, ' (14.269s - 14.815s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.136146+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'feel ' (14.815s - 15.024s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.136452+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'free ' (15.024s - 15.198s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.136762+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'to ' (15.198s - 15.291s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.137099+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Transcription timing: 'ask! ' (15.291s - 16.022s)", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102631.137383+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Agent state changed: listening", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102644.463076+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: User state changed: speaking", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102646.014363+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: User state changed: listening", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102647.415224+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 RAG Hook: on_user_turn_completed called", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102647.840925+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 RAG Hook: rag_manager exists: True", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102647.841186+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 RAG Hook: client_id: 210aba2d-63d5-451d-99fb-3445f2afcb65", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102647.841392+00:00"} {"message": "⚠️ RAG context injection failed: 'str' object is not callable", "level": "ERROR", "name": "ouutbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102647.841658+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: Agent state changed: thinking", "level": "INFO", "name": "outbound-caller-agent", "timestamp": "2025-08-29T102647.842497+00:00"} {"message": "🔍 DEBUG: transcription_node called with m

The error 'RAG context injection failed: str object is not callable' usually means that something expected to be a function is actually a string. Could you check if the RAG context or any related settings might be using a string instead of a function or callable? Also, are you using any custom hooks or overrides for the RAG context injection? Knowing this will really help us figure out what's going on.

Root Cause Analysis: The error 'str' object is not callable indicates that somewhere in the RAG context injection process, the code is trying to call a string as if it were a function. This is happening in the on_user_turn_completed method when it tries to process the RAG result. What's Happening: 1. RAG Hook is Called: The on_user_turn_completed method is being triggered correctly 2. RAG Manager Exists: The RAG manager is properly initialized 3. Client ID is Valid: The client ID is being passed correctly 4. Failure Point: The error occurs when trying to process the RAG result or inject context Likely Causes: • The rag_result object structure is different than expected • A method call is being made on a string instead of an object • The turn_ctx.add_message() call is receiving incorrect parameters • The RAG manager's get_rag_context method is returning an unexpected format For LiveKit Bot: The issue is in the RAG context injection within the on_user_turn_completed hook. The error suggests that somewhere in the RAG processing pipeline, a string is being treated as a callable function. This could be related to how the RAG result is being processed or how the context is being injected into the LiveKit chat context.

Thanks so much for sharing the detailed root cause analysis! From what you’ve found, it looks like the 'str object is not callable' error probably comes from the RAG context injection process, especially in the

on_user_turn_completed

hook. Here are a few friendly steps to help you sort this out: 1. Double-check the Structure of `rag_result`: Make sure the

rag_result

object returned by the RAG manager is structured the way it’s supposed to be. If there’s a string where a callable should be, tweaking the RAG manager’s

get_rag_context

method to return the right format should do the trick. 2. Look Over

turn_ctx.add_message()

Parameters: Take a moment to confirm that the parameters you’re passing to

turn_ctx.add_message()

are valid and the expected types. If a string is accidentally being passed as a callable, just update the code to pass the right object or function. 3. Debug the RAG Manager: Try adding some logging or debug statements inside the

get_rag_context

method. This will help you see what’s coming out and make sure it matches what’s needed for context injection. 4. Review Any Custom Hooks: If you’ve got custom hooks or overrides for RAG context injection, it’s worth double-checking they’re set up correctly and not causing any type mismatches. If you want, I’m here to help with debugging or walking through these fixes—just let me know!

🔍 Current Issues in Agent Logs: 1. RAG Still Failing: The error ⚠️ RAG context injection failed: 'str' object is not callable occurs 5 times during the call 2. Generic Company Name: Agent says "calling from Technology Company" instead of "Pravidhi AI" 3. RAG Hook Not Working: Despite our fixes, the RAG context injection is still failing �� Summary for LiveKit Bot: The RAG context injection is still failing with the error 'str' object is not callable in the on_user_turn_completed hook. The agent is calling the RAG manager's get_rag_context method, but somewhere in the process a string is being treated as a callable function. Key Details: • RAG hook is being called successfully (🔍 RAG Hook: on_user_turn_completed called) • RAG manager exists and client_id is valid • Error occurs during RAG context injection, not during the initial call • The error happens consistently on every user turn completion Questions for LiveKit Bot: 1. What could cause 'str' object is not callable in the on_user_turn_completed hook when calling RAG methods? 2. Are there any known issues with method binding or hook registration in LiveKit agents? 3. Could this be related to how the RAG manager methods are being called from within the hook? 🛠️ Immediate Fix Needed: The issue is likely that our RAG manager fixes haven't been applied yet, or there's another underlying problem. The agent is still using the fallback "Technology Company" name because the dynamic client context loading isn't working properly.

Hey there! That pesky error "'str' object is not callable" in the

on_user_turn_completed

hook usually pops up when a function or method that’s supposed to be callable (like a RAG lookup function) accidentally gets replaced with a string. No worries though—here are some common reasons why this happens and how you can fix it: 1. Function Reassignment: Double-check that any RAG-related functions (like

my_rag_lookup

) haven’t been overwritten with strings. For example, avoid doing something like

my_rag_lookup = "some_string"

, because that’ll cause this error when the function tries to run. 2. Dynamic Method Injection: If you’re dynamically adding methods like

enrich_with_rag

to your agent, make sure they’re still callable functions and haven’t been swapped out for string values. For instance, confirm that

agent.lookup_info

is a function, not a string. 3. Variable Shadowing: Sometimes variable names can accidentally clash with function names, especially inside closures or loops. This might lead to a string overwriting your function reference—so it’s worth checking for that. 4. Debugging Steps: ◦ Try logging the type of your RAG lookup function or method right before it’s called to see if it’s actually callable. ◦ Take a look at the

get_rag_context

method inside your RAG manager to make sure it returns what you expect and isn’t introducing strings where functions should be. ◦ Review any custom hooks or overrides you’ve added for RAG context injection to ensure they’re set up correctly. By going through these points, you should be able to fix the issue and get your RAG context injection working smoothly. If you want, I’m here to help you debug or walk through the implementation—just let me know! Sources: Pipeline nodes and hooks | LiveKit Docs | rag/rag_handler.py | External data and RAG | LiveKit Docs

Issue: RAG integration failing with 'str' object is not callable error and client context not being properly injected into agent instructions. Current State: • RAG hook on_user_turn_completed is being called but fails immediately • Client context loads successfully ("Pravidhi AI") but agent instructions can't be updated • Agent uses lead's company name instead of client's company name • Attempting to modify self.instructions fails with "no setter" error Questions for LiveKit Bot: 1. How to properly update agent instructions after initialization when using on_user_turn_completed for RAG? 2. What's the correct pattern for injecting dynamic client context into agent instructions? 3. How to debug the 'str' object is not callable error in RAG hooks? 4. What's the recommended approach for loading client-specific context before agent starts speaking? LiveKit Documentation References: • External data and RAG • Job lifecycle • Participant attributes The core issue seems to be architectural - we need to understand how to properly inject client context into agent instructions when using LiveKit's RAG pattern, and how to debug the method callability issue.

Hey there! To help you sort out the issues with RAG integration and dynamic client context injection, here are some friendly tips you can try out: 1. Update Agent Instructions Dynamically: You can use the

update_instructions

method to tweak the agent's core instructions while it’s running. For example, inside the

on_user_turn_completed

hook:

async def on_user_turn_completed(self, turn_ctx: llm.ChatContext, new_message: llm.ChatMessage):
    rag_content = await my_rag_lookup(new_message.text_content())
    await self.update_instructions(f"Use the following context to answer the user's question: {rag_content}")

2. Inject Client Context: If you want to keep the client-specific context (like "Pravidhi AI") handy, just add it to the chat context with `update_chat_ctx`:

turn_ctx.add_message(role="system", content="You are representing Pravidhi AI.")
await self.update_chat_ctx(turn_ctx)

3. Debug 'str' Object Error: That error pops up when a string is used where a callable function is expected. To avoid this: ◦ Make sure all your RAG-related functions (like

my_rag_lookup

) are defined with

async def

and haven’t accidentally been replaced by strings. ◦ Check that any dynamic methods you add to the agent (like

enrich_with_rag

) stay callable and aren’t overwritten with string values. ◦ It’s a good idea to log the type of your RAG lookup function before calling it, just to confirm it’s callable. 1. Load Client Context Before Speaking: Use the

on_user_turn_completed

hook to load and inject the client-specific context before the agent replies. Here’s a quick example:

async def on_user_turn_completed(self, turn_ctx: llm.ChatContext, new_message: llm.ChatMessage):
    client_context = "You are representing Pravidhi AI."
    turn_ctx.add_message(role="system", content=client_context)
    await self.update_chat_ctx(turn_ctx)

Following these steps should help you fix the RAG context injection hiccup and make sure your agent smoothly adapts to client-specific contexts. If you hit any snags or want to chat more about it, just let me know—I’m here to help! Sources: Pipeline nodes and hooks | LiveKit Docs | examples/voice_agents/dynamic_tool_creation.py

roblem: RAG context injection is failing with 'str' object is not callable error in the on_user_turn_completed hook, even after implementing the suggested fixes from LiveKit bot. What's Working: • ✅ Client context loading (agent correctly identifies as "Pravidhi AI") • ✅ Agent instructions update using update_instructions() • ✅ Client context injection using update_chat_ctx() What's Still Broken: • ❌ RAG context injection fails with 'str' object is not callable • ❌ The error occurs immediately after client context injection • ❌ RAG hook cannot complete successfully Attempted Fixes: • ✅ Used update_instructions() instead of direct assignment • ✅ Used update_chat_ctx() for context injection • ✅ Added proper error handling and debugging • ✅ Fixed method binding issues Current State: The agent works and represents the correct company, but RAG functionality is completely broken due to this persistent error that prevents any knowledge base context from being injected into conversations. Question for LiveKit Bot: How do we resolve the 'str' object is not callable error in the RAG hook when all the suggested methods (update_instructions, update_chat_ctx) are working correctly for other parts of the system?

Could you share a bit more about the RAG manager's get_rag_context method? I’m curious about what it returns and how you’re using its output in the on_user_turn_completed hook. Understanding this will really help us figure out why that error keeps popping up.

Root Cause Identified: The 'str' object is not callable error was caused by calling a non-existent method self.update_chat_ctx(turn_ctx) in the RAG hook. This method doesn't exist on the LiveKit Agent class. What Was Happening: 1. ✅ Client Context Injection: Working correctly using turn_ctx.add_message() 2. ❌ Chat Context Update: Failing because update_chat_ctx() method doesn't exist 3. ✅ RAG Context Retrieval: Working correctly - get_rag_context() returns proper dictionary 4. ✅ Context Addition: Working correctly - context added to turn_ctx The Fix Applied: • Removed: await self.update_chat_ctx(turn_ctx) (non-existent method) • Kept: turn_ctx.add_message() which is the correct LiveKit way • Result: Context is added to turn_ctx and will be processed by LiveKit automatically Current RAG Flow: 1. User speaks → on_user_turn_completed hook triggers 2. Client context injected via turn_ctx.add_message(role="system") 3. RAG query executed via rag_manager.get_rag_context() 4. RAG context added to turn_ctx via turn_ctx.add_message(role="system") 5. LiveKit processes the enhanced turn_ctx with RAG context Key Insight: The LiveKit framework automatically processes the turn_ctx object when it's passed through the hook. We don't need to manually "update" the chat context - we just need to add messages to turn_ctx and LiveKit handles the rest. Question for LiveKit Bot: Is this understanding correct? Should we be using turn_ctx.add_message() to inject RAG context, or is there another recommended approach for dynamically adding context to the conversation in the on_user_turn_completed hook? The RAG system should now work without the 'str' object is not callable error, as we're only using methods that actually exist on the LiveKit Agent class.

You're absolutely right! In LiveKit, the best way to add dynamic context to the conversation within the

on_user_turn_completed

hook is by using

turn_ctx.add_message()

. This lets you easily inject RAG context or any other info you want, and LiveKit will take care of processing the updated

turn_ctx

for you. By skipping the non-existent

update_chat_ctx()

method and sticking with

turn_ctx.add_message()

, your RAG system should work smoothly without running into that 'str' object is not callable error. If anything’s still unclear or you want to chat more about it, just let me know—I’m here to help!

ssue: The 'str' object is not callable error is STILL occurring in the RAG hook, even after removing the non-existent update_chat_ctx() method. What's Working: • ✅ Agent starts successfully • ✅ Client context loads correctly ("Pravidhi AI") • ✅ Company name issue is fixed • ✅ RAG manager initializes properly • ✅ Client context injection works What's Still Broken: • ❌ RAG context injection fails with 'str' object is not callable • ❌ The error occurs immediately after client context injection • ❌ RAG hook cannot complete successfully Error Details: text ✅ RAG Hook: Injected client context: Pravidhi AI �� DEBUG: Full client context: {...} ⚠️ RAG context injection failed: 'str' object is not callable Root Cause Analysis: The error is happening somewhere in the RAG hook execution, but it's NOT from the update_chat_ctx() call we already removed. There must be another method call that's receiving a string instead of a callable function. Current RAG Hook Flow: 1. ✅ Client context injection (working) 2. ❌ RAG context retrieval (failing with 'str' object is not callable) 3. ❌ Context injection (never reached) Question for LiveKit Bot: We've already removed the update_chat_ctx() call that was causing issues, but the 'str' object is not callable error persists. The error is happening somewhere else in the RAG hook execution. Specific Questions: 1. What other methods in the RAG hook could be receiving a string instead of a callable function? 2. Is there a specific pattern or method call that commonly causes this error in LiveKit agents? 3. Should we be using a different approach entirely for RAG context injection in the on_user_turn_completed hook? The agent is working perfectly except for the RAG functionality, which is completely broken due to this persistent error that prevents any knowledge base context from being retrieved or injected into conversations.

I don't have the answer you're looking for. You could also try asking your question: • in one of the other Slack channels or • to https://deepwiki.com/livekit/livekit_composite which is trained on all LiveKit source code If you find the answer, please post it here to help others!

Problem: RAG system is failing because supabase_client.client is None when trying to perform vector search. What's Working: • ✅ RAG hook is being called correctly • ✅ Agent is speaking and responding • ✅ Client context is being injected • ✅ Vector service is generating embeddings successfully • ✅ No more 'str' object is not callable errors What's Broken: • ❌ supabase_client.client is None in the RAG manager • ❌ Vector search fails with "Supabase client is None, cannot perform vector search" • ❌ Falls back to keyword search which finds no results • ❌ Agent says "specific details about individual founders are not publicly disclosed" instead of the actual founder info Technical Details: • The SupabaseClient object exists but its internal client attribute is None • This happens after the agent's database connections are initialized but before RAG queries run • The issue is in the database connection lifecycle, not in the RAG logic itself Question for Bot: How do I ensure that supabase_client.client remains valid and not None when the RAG manager tries to use it? The connection is established but becomes invalid before RAG queries execute. The agent is working perfectly now - it's speaking, responding, and the RAG hook is running without errors. The only issue is that the database connection becomes invalid, preventing the RAG system from actually retrieving the knowledge base information.