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# helpdesks
steep-balloon-41261
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acoustic-engineer-41666
09/07/2023, 11:56 PMcc @able-gigabyte-21598
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able-gigabyte-21598
09/08/2023, 12:31 AMWith livekit server, it should be considered active as soon as the ID is returned. With cloud, there will be a race for the info to be saved to the database if you call it immediately.
It’s also possible for a bad request to pass validation but then fail before you have a chance to call stop
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thankful-bear-28983
09/11/2023, 10:39 PMis there a difference for WebEgress? I thought there was only one way to do WebEgress, which is cloud I guess?
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able-gigabyte-21598
09/11/2023, 10:40 PMThere's no difference for Web
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thankful-bear-28983
09/11/2023, 10:40 PMand yeah a chance of failing before stop makes sense, I'm worried about the db race you described on start
thankful-bear-28983
09/11/2023, 10:41 PMah ok, so WebEgress does have this race?
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able-gigabyte-21598
09/11/2023, 10:43 PMActually I believe this was recently fixed. It should automatically retry the request if it doesn't find the Egress
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thankful-bear-28983
09/11/2023, 10:43 PMoh amazing, thanks!
thankful-bear-28983
09/11/2023, 10:44 PM(still a little nervous about start not being atomic internally, but seems like it should be fine 😅)