Linen

Would be cool if message reactions could be added by just clicking on the thumbs up under the message

Thanks for the feedback, we'll consider it for sure :). We need to get better reaction support for sure.

This is really cool, just joined. Lots of interest in alternative chat apps and I like the need you are addressing (forum + chat, open, search indexed, etc.) Curious whats your take on open chat protocols such as matrix.org or nostr.com ? 

Thanks! We will probably support Matrix. It is just on our very long list of features that we want to build. There are a bunch of Matrix communities that could use the indexing we provide

When I switch channels in the left menu, the loading indicator shows up, and nothing happens until the loading finishes. That gets a feeling of non-responsiveness of the UI. I'd love if switching channels in the left menu (or by any other action) happened immediately even if that means showing an empty list of messages with loading indicator.

And I have to say that I greatly appreciate the simplistic look of the UI. It gives me a hope to get a usable tool that's fast and consumes only as much resources as needed. I greatly appreciate that philosophy.

It's cool to have a preview for messages with Markdown, but the very first time I added some _styling_ like that I had a feeling that my half-finished message has already been sent. I guess the UI should explicitly differentiate "previews" from "normal" messages. I am thinking about a little "Preview" hint in the top-right corner. BTW having a date next to the "preview" message makes the most confusion to me. That literally indicates that it's just another _sent_ message which is not.

but tbh I believe you should have known that already :) again, fantastic job

100% agreed :) We were thinking about adding a `Preview` label in the top right corner. Your point about the date makes a lot of sense, so I think it might make sense to just replace the date with a `Preview` label. I'll work on it now and see how it looks like.

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I made some changes [here](https://github.com/Linen-dev/linen.dev/pull/1147). I hope this makes the behavior a bit more obvious. Happy to hear other suggestions if you have any!

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I like the experience a lot, but no editing functionality is a dealbreaker, and no emoji reactions makes it a tough sell. No inline emojis is too bad, but falling back to old-school text emojis works for my peers to prevent text-only miscommunication – but perhaps won't for other audiences.

Those things are the roadmap! Scope is very large for a Slack alternative. 

First version of editing has landed :). A lot of room for improvements but we want to fix all dealbreakers as soon as possible.

We'll work on emojis soon too! :)

The sign up flow doesn't give me any kind of success message on mobile after clicking the magic link.b

Thanks for the feedback we'll fix this soon

Hi there are no channel security lock down by permission ? ex: I have posted to some channel I dont think I should as Blog, Docs

Definitely on the roadmap. The workaround is that since we can move threads around we just move anything that shouldn't be there

For long threads we should have a concept of how far someone read the thread/seen then next time when someone comes back in we should show where they are. Noticed this for Messenger threads. When you go to a conversation it is always on the bottom. I've missed messages Messenger because I didn't scroll up all the way and it makes the reading experience awkward.

After clicking a messaging in the channel, thread messages will be shown, but I don't know how to hide such thread messages if I switch to another channel

cber We intentionally keep the threads open. We want to be more thread focused as a tool. Especially since larger communities become very difficult to manage if you don't use threads

I'm fine with such intention when still in the same channel, but when I goto other channel, I may want to get more information from the screen without the thread messages since I don't know if in other channel there are thread attractive to me or not.

Once the channels creted, cannot edit it or delete it, even for empty channels.

You can, but our documentation isn't that great at the moment. All code is open sourced though and we have some basic docs so you can give it a shot if you have time. Feedback appreciated as usual :).

kam trying to see if DMs and mentions work

tried search for DM.. not clear where to get the user name from

@77a4f3b1-96ca-498a-8bbe-122f20c4e239 you can try DMing me

!77a4f3b1-96ca-498a-8bbe-122f20c4e239 this is how the push notification shows up

I think it better to add a feature to show who is like my message

Yep we have that on our roadmap probably will be done next week

Where is mobile on the roadmap / timeline?

We're going to do some estimates some time this week after reviewing feedback. Will get back to you on this by next week the latest

Hey, is there a way of dming people by clicking their profile picture / seeing a little popup with a message box maybe? Clicking on the + under direct is not very intuitive

Yep we just opened an issue for this https://github.com/Linen-dev/linen.dev/issues/1305

somehow my channel I created got lost, server reset or sth?

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Channels shouldn't get lost, could you please check if you can find it in the search?

there's a search icon next to the `CHANNELS` text

Yes, the process is tricky though. You can find the get started docs [here](https://github.com/Linen-dev/linen.dev/blob/main/docs/getting-started.md).

Is there a way to hide the comment section on the right hand side once its opened?

Not currently. We had it in the past, but decided to remove it as it was being confused with the possibility of being able to mark the thread as closed.

It's harder to get hold of linen.dev's awesome features like two Two way real-time sync with the new landing page. I think there should be feature list that is prettier and more detailed than the README.md of the github repo somewhere easy to access.

@21376843-7feb-4919-8b83-2f8227dfd590 we have a landing page https://linen.dev/landing We plan on linking it more prominently 

Linen's feed feedback

Hey all. I just initiated a sync (reconnecting Discord in the process) manually to get my channels updated again. This seems to have stopped working a few days ago. 

It synced a few of my most active channels just fine a gain but a few channels are missing, I posted in one of them after syncing (got an email that the sync was complete) but that post never showed up, even after syncing again. 

Additionally, it's unclear to me what "the appropriate role" should be for LinenBot and what the "essential" manual assignment would be, any docs on that? I said "I confirm" but.. I have no idea if I have the correct config! 😅

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Forgot the screenshot

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Okay, well, now they've synced.. so maybe the sync took longer and I tried multiple times, so eventually it all synced. 

Still no idea what the appropriate permissions are though 🙈

Basically the bot role needs to be the same role a user would need to get access to the channel. We don't have access to see what permissions those are there for its a bit cryptic. We'll improve the messaging. 

Besides that we are having some performance issues with the sync so will investigate it will get back to you soon!

I've updated the instructions so it is a bit more clear

Thanks, the new message is a lot clearer:

> Certain permissions are automatically assigned to users once they engage with the community onboarding process. However, LinenBot is not able to interact with the onboarding process.
> In order for Linenbot to work make sure Linenbot has the same roles and permissions as the users who have completed the onboarding process.

Now I actually understand what I need to do, luckily mine was already equipped with the correct permissions 👍

hey @149bd87a-6b01-4738-a1df-d37c109e1a08, we pushed some changes related to permissions, specifically to readonly channels which were introduced quite recently. Would you mind double checking if it's working as expected now?

Ahaaaa! You know what I totally forgot that I made them read-only, that could well be the problem! I'll check again and will update.

It seems like this has been syncing reliably for the past few days now, thanks for resolving this issue! 🙌

Discord sync seems to stop working a lot and misses out on channels

Linen product looks very interesting, but I am not sure about the cost of running Linen. In particular I worried about cost per user - 50 USD for 5000 users. Usually, with time communities accumulate inactive users. It is quite possible for a community to have 100.000 registered users from which only 1000 are active the rest 99.000 users do not visit community at all, but by the current pricing model the community owner should pay 1000 USD per month. Most of community building platforms charge per usage - monthly page views (e.g. https://www.discourse.org/pricing). Will it be possible to make pricing based on the usage?

Pricing of Linen - based on user count - looks unsustainable

I like the idea of Linen, but its design a bit too subtle for our community. We would like to have posts more obvious about its nature, meaning more indicative that they can be discussed in a separate thread. Is there a theme like this? 
Also, is it possible to create only-chat channels where only simple messages are allowed and only forum-channels where only posts are allowed?
Also is it possible to create folders to organize channels in the left sidebar?

Ok, I think I found the answer to the second question - you do have forum- and chat- channels.

Are there themes/skins for Linen?

Is there a limit on max number of channels?

Limit on a max number of channels?

Just for context, Linen is what I was looking for. Here are my posts on NodeBB, Discourse and Discord forum trying to understand if they can offer such functionality (basically Discord on custom domain, indexable by Google). https://meta.discourse.org/t/chat-like-forums-open-topic-to-the-right-from-the-list-of-topics/290722
https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17774/chat-like-structured-forum
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/20371351137431

It is a bit confusing to understand in what channel you are on mobile design. Why is it not like in Discord - channel name in top bar, channels accessible via burger button in top bar?

Mobile design

It would be great to have a view of active (currently present in the community) users. Is it in the roadmap?

Active users in community

Do you have custom integrations? For example, publish a post in a specific channel when triggered by an action in some other place?

Custom integrations?

Is there a localization for linen interface to most popular languages? Did not find it in settings.

Linen localization

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Will it be possible to make not joined channels more discoverable? Right newly joined user does not know that there are other channels , except those to which user was joined automatically on sign up. Could we enable showing currently not joined channels below as a greyed out list OR show link at the bottom of the channels channels "See 123 other channels" OR on sign up show user all channels and ask him to what channels they want to join?