I still don't know version control in a professional setting. In my projects I just mix everything into one. half features, full fixes, version updates, etc. But for yours I will add one thing and create a pull request for every feature

Yeah, that can be ok for a personal project, but you have to be more careful when you’re collaborating with others.

Even with a personal project though, it generally works out better if you try to keep things neatly organized

It often seems like it might be faster to be undisciplined, but it almost always comes back to bite you 🙂

For me I just get stuck on something so I work on another feature. Next thing I know, everything is different

aka, “more haste, less speed” 🙂

if you keep each feature branch specific, then you can just merge changes to master into the feature branches to keep them up-to-date as you go along.

I think this might be a problem a lot of junior developers run into. I tend to make code that is coupled together so changing one thing means I have to change more things than I want to.

Oh, absolutely. “more haste, less speed” is the easiest way to tell the difference between experienced developers and less experienced.

The faster you can internalize the idea of “do it right the first time”, the better a developer you’ll be, and the more successful you’ll be

(for reference, most developers take 5-10 years of working professionally before they really get this - and some people never do :)

I've already started learning it in my android project. My first project is a mess.

Should I add a comment to the img function that says it doesn't have internal routing so you have to use an external server? That way when they ctrl mouseover in their ide they can see it

hmm

Right now just about everything is uncommented

hah, yes, as you can see, even fairly experienced developers don’t always follow their own advice of doing things right the first time 🙂

If you could hold-off on that commenting for now, I think the real solution to things like serving up images is a bigger problem.

Well, ok, actually, maybe do add that comment. It can’t hurt - and if this confused you, it will probably confuse others

anyone get an error like this?

22:19:38.858 [qtp2129221032-26] ERROR io.kweb.WebBrowser - JavaScript message: 'Cannot read property 'parentNode' of null'
Caused by executing: 'document.getElementById("Kg").parentNode.removeChild(document.getElementById("Kg"));':
        at io.kweb.Kweb.execute(Kweb.kt:323)
        at io.kweb.WebBrowser.execute(WebBrowser.kt:48)
        at io.kweb.dom.element.Element.execute(Element.kt:40)
        at io.kweb.dom.element.Element.delete(Element.kt:290)

for reference I am trying to do something like this

render(boolKVar) {
  if (boolKVar.value) {
    div().new {
      p().text("Loaded.")
    }
  } else {
    div().new {
      p().text("Loading...")
    }
  }
}

(decided to go with

setAttribute("style", "visibility:hidden;display:none")

as a work-around )

@alostpacket I replied on gitter

Hi guys, I was watching the close panel fron Kotlin conf and Leland, compose developer at Google, say that Will be cool if compose work in kweb, you guys look at the compose project? Any plan to try a port to kweb?

I've taken a look at Compose, it definitely has a lot of similarities in its approach to Kweb - however I'm not aware of anyone currently working on an integration.

Hi @Ian would it be feasible to decouple kweb from ktor? I would like to start adding it into an http4k project, gradually replacing the frontend/backend split with a nice monolith.

It might also make a nice addition to the Alpas Framework which seems to be the closest thing to rails we've got in the Kotlin world.

Hi @pabl0rg.  I'm not too familiar with HTTP4k but it should be possible, although it would require abstracting out the HTTP/WebSocket transport code, which isn't something I'd contemplated previously. Does HTTP4k have significant advantages over Ktor, or is it more that you're locked into it?

Hi @Ian are there any examples of kweb projects with charts?

Hi, what's the big difference between Kweb and tools such as HTMX? :) Yes X

Hello, I fixed some demos, could you take a look? Thanks https://github.com/kwebio/kweb-demos/pull/7